next »

[Pike84]

I was listening to some old MPC files and one of them threw this on my face all of a sudden:

File uses Intensity Stereo not supported anymore! Please decode with command line tool.

I know this isn't mainly XMPlay's issue, but rather of the plugin, but I wonder if anything can be done at XMP's end. I have both XMPlay's native plugin and the Winamp plugin in use. The error message comes from the Winamp plugin, but the native one can't play the file either (just draws the red line across it).

I'm pretty sure I've played this file fine at some point, but obviously something has changed. I Wonder what..

[Dotpitch]

I know this isn't mainly XMPlay's issue, but rather of the plugin, but I wonder if anything can be done at XMP's end.

If the plugin refuses to decode it, XMPlay won't have the decoded waveform and cannot do anything. I recall there has been a library update for xmp-mpc (SV8), but I can't find out when exactly that was.

[piovrauz]

I had dome mpc encoded stuff. and I couldn't play them too. now that Dotpitch said it, I remember what I did, and it's what you'll prolly have to
Get the mpc SV8 on (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=70000), and start converting. XD

[Pike84]

It seems like the file is actually corrupted or otherwise bad. I tried that converting tool, but it didn't do anything for the file, although it did work on others.

Thanks for the help, but there doesn't seem to be anything to be done here

[Zarggg]

The Musepack team released a tool that losslessly converts SV7 (and earlier methods) to SV8 losslessly. I'd suggest running that on your old MPC files.

[Pike84]

Didn't you read my last post? I just said I tried that tool, but it didn't work for that bad file.

[Zarggg]

Actually, I did miss that one.

[Shotgun_blougou]

Hello,

I'm quite happy with the current version, so let's be picky:

1) I like simple and cleat navigation coz I listen to big playlists, and yet the list is not so clear. I use the Lunafam skin, and still I miss the golden stars of the Windows player. I mean that the yellow color catched your eye instantly while I miss these stars quite often, plus the fact that when I give a rating to a song, it often disappears later. Yea, my biggest concern is that there is no skin that is really user friendly.

2) It would be nice to be able to download a version of the player with the 10 most common plugins on your site (I said picky, didn't I?) like the ones that allow to play different types of files.

 Well I can't really find something else to criticize - I'm a basic user, don't care about advanced sound options- so I guess your player must be really really good, congratulations.   

[Chinese Sausage]

Hope this helps.

Cheers!

[raina]

I'm unsure when rearranging duplicate files became available as a feature, but unchecking move existing in the playlist options doesn't seem to stop it with the past couple of stuffs.

[Ian @ un4seen]

I don't seem to be able to reproduce that; with "no duplicates" enabled and "move existing" disabled, adding an existing track is highlighting the existing entry without moving it. Are you seeing different no matter how you add the track to the list, or is it only when adding the track in a particular way?

[winner]

Ah, you really mean the playlist, not the queue. You can still just ignore the playlist (don't open it, only use the library), or use a shortcut to open a new stream and clear the rest of the playlist (assgin 'List track - Play', 'Info - Extended list', 'List nav - Jump to current', 'List nav - Invert selection', 'List track - Remove', 'Info - Library', 'List nav - Jump to current' to the same key combination, for example to Enter). I'll put a 'replace playlist' mouse button option for you on the list of suggestions .

So, we have the "replace playlist" option in the Integration view of "Options and Stuff." This action works for files double clicked in Windows Explorer, but does not work for files double clicked in the Library view. I think that instead of adding another "replace playlist" button to the interface, wouldn't it make sense to have this control also apply to files selected in the Library view? For the case of streaming URL locations in the Library, there would need to be some programmatic consideration for stream listings in the library such as http://207.200.96.231:8004. For convenience, I'm attaching a screenshot of the Integration view.

[wrkq]

Well, there is an "replace playlist" action under right-click in the library. You may have a point that MAYBE it should become the default double-click action if you switch the Integration stuff, but keep in mind that the "Integration" tab is supposed to configure stuff related to external calls, like clicking a file in Windows Explorer, not "internal" XMPlay UI.
No idea what you mean by "programmatic consideration", but you should be able to store both raw stream URLs, and (with "Process playlists" in lobrary options unticked) links to pls/m3u files with streams inside.
Ever since Dotpitch pointed that option out to me, I have library populated with links to internet radios' .pls files, and use the rightclick->replace playlist option to listen to them.

[winner]

Well, there is an "replace playlist" action under right-click in the library. You may have a point that MAYBE it should become the default double-click action if you switch the Integration stuff, but keep in mind that the "Integration" tab is supposed to configure stuff related to external calls, like clicking a file in Windows Explorer, not "internal" XMPlay UI.
No idea what you mean by "programmatic consideration", but you should be able to store both raw stream URLs, and (with "Process playlists" in lobrary options unticked) links to pls/m3u files with streams inside.
Ever since Dotpitch pointed that option out to me, I have library populated with links to internet radios' .pls files, and use the rightclick->replace playlist option to listen to them.

Thanks for the explanation about integration. I was thinking about integration in terms of global file associations.

Also, I did some searching on the support site about the "Process playlists" option and wasn't able to find out what it actually does. If it's documented, I couldn't find it. Could someone explain what this does?

I noticed the "Replace playlist" option on the right click menu of the library view, and this does replace the playlist with the selected item(s), but doesn't start immediate playback of the selected item(s). I have to go back to the main window and click the play button. I'd expect that playback would begin immediately. This is the behavior I see no matter the state of the "Process playlists" checkbox.

Yeah, sorry, I could've been clearer on "programmatic consideration." I was thinking how a stream URL such as the one I provided doesn't have an extension to associate and how association with streaming sites would be handled, but on reflection, associating a file type like this isn't something to be done by the user; it's provided by default and controlled by the appropriate input plugin.

[wrkq]

Thanks for the explanation about integration. I was thinking about integration in terms of global file associations.

Also, I did some searching on the support site about the "Process playlists" option and wasn't able to find out what it actually does. If it's documented, I couldn't find it. Could someone explain what this does?

If it's ticked, when you add a playlist (pls/m3u/whatever) fiole to library, it's read, and "unpacked" into the music files listed inside. I.e. adding a playlist really adds the contents of it. If it's unticked, adding a playlist file to the library stores path of the playlist itself - so, if its content is updated, clicking the playilist in library will re-read the current version. Perfect for keeping internet radio stations in library, IMO, as they usually offer a playlist on known URL, but the addresses of streams themselves may vary (as you're supposed to get them from the playlist file each time).

I noticed the "Replace playlist" option on the right click menu of the library view, and this does replace the playlist with the selected item(s), but doesn't start immediate playback of the selected item(s). I have to go back to the main window and click the play button. I'd expect that playback would begin immediately. This is the behavior I see no matter the state of the "Process playlists" checkbox.

Agreed here, I'd too prefer it to autoplay (Or, possibly, honour the "Play listed tracks:" dropdown in integration tab?).

Yeah, sorry, I could've been clearer on "programmatic consideration." I was thinking how a stream URL such as the one I provided doesn't have an extension to associate and how association with streaming sites would be handled, but on reflection, associating a file type like this isn't something to be done by the user; it's provided by default and controlled by the appropriate input plugin.

Not really. Playing an URL is a completely different case - if you plug an URL of a shoutcast stream into a browser, it'll either error out or load a browser plugin (quicktime, WMPlayer, such.) There's no way that I know to associate an URL system-wide with XMPlay, unless you mean a case of an URL to playlist - where the browser should offer "Open in XMPlay" if you have .pls and/or .m3u files associated to XMPlay.
The way to get URLs into the player is using the "Open URL" box at bottom of Add File dialog, or loading a playilist with URLs inside.
And if you still meant something different... urm, could you clarify again?

[Dotpitch]

Also, I did some searching on the support site about the "Process playlists" option and wasn't able to find out what it actually does. If it's documented, I couldn't find it. Could someone explain what this does?

RTFM . Ian spends quite some time writing it.

Process playlists:
    If enabled, when adding playlist files (eg. PLS/M3U/ASX) to the library,
    they will be parsed and their contents added to the library. Otherwise,
    the playlist file itself will be added to the library, and only parsed
    when it is added to the playlist/played.
   
TIP: A 'net radio playlist URL could be added to the library to ensure that
     the correct stream URL is always used, even if it changes.

So, pretty much like wrkq said.

I'd expect that playback would begin immediately.

Agreed here, I'd too prefer it to autoplay (Or, possibly, honour the "Play listed tracks:" dropdown in integration tab?).

'Play listed tracks' is on the Integration page, which applies to external calls, as you said yourself. In addition, 'if not playing' is invalid in the case of replacing the playlist, since the current track will be stopped.

[winner]

RTFM . Ian spends quite some time writing it.

OK, this time I overlooked the text file. But an entire support site is more akin to an "fm" than a text file. No need to get snarky, at least I spent some time looking before posting.

[Dotpitch]

No need to get snarky, at least I spent some time looking before posting.

Sorry, I didn't mean to.

But an entire support site is more akin to an "fm" than a text file.

The Support Site contains fantastic guides with images for new users to learn the basic functions, but unfortunately it's a bit outdated when it comes to these kind of small (and minor) features. Keltic Danor is working on improving that. The manual is less accessible, but Ian updates it with every stable release to describe the new features, buttons and checkboxes as well.

[edit]

I noticed the "Replace playlist" option on the right click menu of the library view, and this does replace the playlist with the selected item(s), but doesn't start immediate playback of the selected item(s).

Just thought of this. Assign the following series of shortcuts to a convenient key combination (I'd suggest something like shift+space): 'List track - Play', 'Info - Extended list', 'List nav - Invert selection', 'List track - Remove', 'Info - Extended list'. Now select a track in the library and hit the key combination. How's that?
[/edit]

[wrkq]

Agreed here, I'd too prefer it to autoplay (Or, possibly, honour the "Play listed tracks:" dropdown in integration tab?).

'Play listed tracks' is on the Integration page, which applies to external calls, as you said yourself. In addition, 'if not playing' is invalid in the case of replacing the playlist, since the current track will be stopped.

I know, that's why I put that question mark there...
And well, I thought of "any setting other than 'never' would cause it to autoplay", I guess... it was a week ago now >.>;
Sure, a separate setting would be more flexible, but also, probably, more work to implement.

[amit]

Once in a few months I am checking whether  the folder monitoring problem have been fixed. Yesterday I tried it again and again xmplay crashed while scanning. I even added all the non playable file types to the ignore list  but it didn't help.

I am on windows 7 64 bit machine with about 10,000 tracks, XMplay V3.5.1.43.