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[Chinese Sausage]

It is located at the upper left corner on the Info Window, were the "Manage Playlist" button is; it is just a very small glitch, and it only happens on the WAModern Good Ol' Winamp theme.

[Keltic Danor]

It is located at the upper left corner on the Info Window, were the "Manage Playlist" button is; it is just a very small glitch, and it only happens on the WAModern Good Ol' Winamp theme.

Ah I see it now, looks like I got a little sleepy on that one

[Cypress]

nice skins .. mr Keltic Danor 

and about the new spectrum/visual feature i'm anxious to play with it as soon as Ian releases a new skining kit

but in the meantime enjoying "The Music" with the best audio player.

greetings

[Keltic Danor]

There is one glitch left that I am aware of, and thats the minus (-) indicator for time remaining is currently cut off in the mainmode. To fix this I need to move over the time shadow effect on the background over a bit, which looks really awkward so I'm just leaving it for the time being.

I've sent them off to Ian for round 2! Hopefully all the font issues will be resolved.

and about the new spectrum/visual feature i'm anxious to play with it as soon as Ian releases a new skining kit

I've sent you an example, should either help explain it or thoroughly confuse you.

[Jimmy Neutron]

Hey, I really like the new skins and the spectrum display.  Thanks!

Are the WAClassic2 and WAClassic3 the only ones getting colorized spectrums?

Also, my eyes and ears tell me that there's something wrong with the 2nd and 3rd bands of the spectrum display in all of these skins.  They seem to show much too high compared to what I'm hearing (and even after killing the bottom half of the equalizer bands).  Maybe I just don't know what I'm talking about?

[saga]

I also got very extreme peaks on the 2nd and 3rd bands, which didn't really match the 3d vis...

[Chinese Sausage]

Also, my eyes and ears tell me that there's something wrong with the 2nd and 3rd bands of the spectrum display in all of these skins.  They seem to show much too high compared to what I'm hearing (and even after killing the bottom half of the equalizer bands).  Maybe I just don't know what I'm talking about?

It is, and has always been that way

[Jimmy Neutron]

In the WAModern Good Ol' Winamp skin, the library screen doesn't show the current track as highlighted.  Other colors of the WAModern show the library current track in a highlight bar.

I'd rather see a better differentiation, such as making the font white like is shown on the Good Ol' Winamp playlist screen (along with the highlight bar).

[Keltic Danor]

In the WAModern Good Ol' Winamp skin, the library screen doesn't show the current track as highlighted.  Other colors of the WAModern show the library current track in a highlight bar.

I'd rather see a better differentiation, such as making the font white like is shown on the Good Ol' Winamp playlist screen (along with the highlight bar).

At the moment its based on the scaler_lit setting, which is a little too subtle on black backgrounds. A color setting for the highlight bar would do the trick I imagine, but I'll see what the big cheese thinks.

Edit: Btw the spectrum display should match the full on spectrum visual in the info window (albeit a lot smaller) if that original one seems off at all thats a whole 'nother issue altogether

[Jimmy Neutron]

At the moment its based on the scaler_lit setting, which is a little too subtle on black backgrounds. A color setting for the highlight bar would do the trick I imagine, but I'll see what the big cheese thinks.

Edit: Btw the spectrum display should match the full on spectrum visual in the info window (albeit a lot smaller) if that original one seems off at all thats a whole 'nother issue altogether

I played with the spectrum viz way back when, but don't bother with it anymore, so I'm not sure if it looks the same or not.  I somehow got the impression that this issue isn't the display's fault but what the display was fed.

[oddiophile]

Close, but no cigar

- There's no reverb ON/OFF switch in the Modern and Classic Winamp skins

- The EQ, volume and amp level slider backgrounds in the Winamp Classic skins do not change color depending on their position/value

- The EQ graph in the WA Classic skins is fake. It should change its shape dynamically when moving the EQ sliders

- The mono/stereo indicators in the WA Classic skins are also fake

- The Play and Pause buttons are highlighted at the same time on mouseover in all skins. Looks odd / fake

- The foreground time fonts (the lit LED segments) and the background font (the unlit LED segments) position is off in the WA Modern skin

- The 'Play' and 'Pause' indicators alternate way too fast when a song is paused

- It's not possible to resize the extended playlist to match the size of the player window. The minimum possible size is always much bigger than the main window

- The fake lightning bolt should be a button that takes you to www.un4seen.com or displays the player version, homepage and copyright info

- The spectrum analyzer visualization in XMPlay is accurate to the audio signal spectrum (the energy is mostly concentrated in the lower end of the audio spectrum).  Winamp devs did alter the spectrum display a bit to achieve better eye candy  (some function applied to the bar amplitudes to 'equalize' the visual effect)

[Keltic Danor]

- There's no reverb ON/OFF switch in the Modern and Classic Winamp skins
Hmmm good point, will think about where to put it.

- It's not possible to resize the extended playlist to match the size of the player window. The minimum possible size is always much bigger than the main window
When I redo the info/playlist windows this'll be doable, its not with the current layout however.

- The foreground time fonts (the lit LED segments) and the background font (the unlit LED segments) position is off in the WA Modern skin
Font error. There is an incorrect font for the digital timer in this version, a fixed one should be available tomorrow/today'ish.

- The fake lightning bolt should be a button that takes you to www.un4seen.com or displays the player version, homepage and copyright info
Hmmm I can, not a big fan of the mis-clicking any app and it running off to open a browser window *shakes fist at photoshop* but we'll see. Edit: Skinning engine limitation. Unfortunately after looking into it, it's not possible to add a link to a url from a button anymore. Not sure how far back I was thinking there (lol was thinking back to before XMPlay 2.8 in 2003 ).

- The EQ, volume and amp level slider backgrounds in the Winamp Classic skins do not change color depending on their position/value
Skinning engine limitation. I CAN make the background change depending on its value, but it'll work like the knob controls in MMD3. E.g. You won't be able to just click to move a bar, you'd need to click and drag.

- The EQ graph in the WA Classic skins is fake. It should change its shape dynamically when moving the EQ sliders
Skinning engine limitation. Not possible to do, had nothing better to put there so left it in.

- The mono/stereo indicators in the WA Classic skins are also fake
Skinning engine limitation. Not possible to do, can remove it but didn't see much point at the time so left it for flavour.

- The Play and Pause buttons are highlighted at the same time on mouseover in all skins. Looks odd / fake
Skinning engine limitation. They are linked, it was either leave one button doing nothing at all, or link them.

- The 'Play' and 'Pause' indicators alternate way too fast when a song is paused
Not skin related. This is controlled by XMPlay, all skins work in this manner.

- The spectrum analyzer visualization in XMPlay is accurate to the audio signal spectrum (the energy is mostly concentrated in the lower end of the audio spectrum).  Winamp devs did alter the spectrum display a bit to achieve better eye candy  (some function applied to the bar amplitudes to 'equalize' the visual effect)
Not skin related. Though the skin provides the graphics, XMPlay's at the wheel, can't do anything myself but we'll see how we go.

[piovrauz]

ok, my 2 cent... (oddiophile fault, I would have done my mod with the source and keep silent...)

- The fake lightning bolt
You can aswell remove it, since it doesn't have a real use.

- The EQ graph in the WA Classic skins is fake
You can aswell remove it, since it doesn't have provide any info.

- The 'Play' and 'Pause' indicators alternate way too fast when a song is paused
well, a slower blink time should be asked @ the boss

- The spectrum analyzer
oddiophile lamenting no eyecandy over fidelity? the world may end soon...

Suggestion: on WA modern skins, minimode, remove the lil arrow just after the mini eq, nince it does nothing.

Suggestion 1 on MMD3 skins: in minimode, the bar was longer both on the time display and on the title display... can you make it so again?

Suggestion 1 on MMD3 skins: in minimode, can the title be displayed as centered (if there is enough space)?

[oddiophile]

You can aswell remove the fake lightning bolt, since it doesn't have a real use.

No, that would be equally bad.  Just replace the bolt with the more beautiful XMPlay logo and change all WINAMP references in the titlebars to 'XMPLAY'.

You can aswell remove the fake EQ graph, since it doesn't have provide any info.

Don't listen to piovrauz. Keep the eye candy, even if it's fake

A slower blink time should be asked @ the boss

Yeah, the fast blinking speed gets annoying really fast.

[Keltic Danor]

I did a separate version of them with the XMPlay name etc, however I do not have a good high quality png that looks good to replace the lightning bolt. If anyone wants to give me one I can try it but no promises.

And yes although it is a slight bummer to have icons graphics etc that are static like the eq/lightningbolt, the skin loses a little something if I just removed them entirely.

In other news I'll be adding a little switch for reverb like so (both WAModern and WAClassic2/3):

Whats that you say? "But Kelt you brobdingnagian virtuoso, why not shuffle around the buttons to fit it in like a normal one?" Thats a good question, the reason is that I don't want to have to reinvent the wheel every time I convert an additional theme for either.

[Jimmy Neutron]

Hey, I don't see the "too rapid" flashing of the play/pause since my .ini includes NoFlashPause=1 (Disable pause button flashing).  Still looking for a way to keep the time from flashing when paused....

Edit: I like the lightning bolt, but the skins should all say "XMPlay".

[amit]

1. Maybe to save on resources - the new spectrum display is very slow. Maybe it is possible to have it more responsive or allow users to adjust its responsiveness ?

2. Maybe make the spectrum  amplitude logarithmic?

[oddiophile]

I do not have a good high quality png that looks good to replace the lightning bolt. If anyone wants to give me one I can try it but no promises.

You can use this one (after some editing):

[Keltic Danor]

I do not have a good high quality png that looks good to replace the lightning bolt. If anyone wants to give me one I can try it but no promises.

You can use this one (after some editing):

Catch is that ones on a white background which means I'd need to clean it up, and it'll probably be fuzzy when I shrink it down. I'm afraid thats not super usable in this case.

[Ian @ un4seen]

The updated WAModern skins are now available...

   www.un4seen.com/stuff/kdskins.zip

and about the new spectrum/visual feature i'm anxious to play with it as soon as Ian releases a new skining kit

It's fairly simple, so if you want, you could give it a try now with the .36 update posted earlier. The usual level display area becomes a spectrum display area by setting the pos_level(mini) skinconfig option to 1000+x, where x is the number of bands. The panel bitmap should contain the spectrum display with all bands empty and the level bitmap should contain the spectrum display with all bands at full level. The display area's width should be equally divisible by the number of bands. That's all there is to it

Also, my eyes and ears tell me that there's something wrong with the 2nd and 3rd bands of the spectrum display in all of these skins.  They seem to show much too high compared to what I'm hearing (and even after killing the bottom half of the equalizer bands).  Maybe I just don't know what I'm talking about?

That is just where most of the energy is, although the 1st band should be including a larger range of frequencies than it is; that'll be sorted for the next update

It may appear that those lower bands are magnified more than the others, but all of the bands are actually equally magnified (to make lower level stuff show up more clearly). You can confirm that by playing a frequency sweep, like this...

   www.un4seen.com/stuff/16khz-sweep.ogg

You'll probably want to turn your speakers off before playing that, and also disable dynamic auto-amp. Note the level is constant across all of the bands.