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[Dotpitch]

The requests by miki and SmartOne are not related. I responded to the one made by SmartOne, and I've put miki's request on the list of suggestions.

I think the system should be changed so, that whenever there's a shortcut assigned with multiple actions under it, it would be displayed as a single item.

That would be very nice, good idea! I do think the shortcut listbox is rather small to add another marker or tree level.

[oddiophile]

@Ian: Could you add a 'Cubic interpolation' option for MOD and MIDI file playback?
Linear and Sinc sound too muffled, while 'None' sounds too harsh and noisy.

[samplah!]

mmm, talking about a shortcut assigned with multiple actions under it, have you ever thought a way of move or change the order in which actions are performed?

heh, for me, XMPlay (and many other programs) wouldn't be so good without customizable shortcuts

[Dotpitch]

mmm, talking about a shortcut assigned with multiple actions under it, have you ever thought a way of move or change the order in which actions are performed?

That's what the up/down buttons are for. The order in the list is the order of execution.

[samplah!]

 

Silly me. Thank you very much Dotpitch 

[Jem]

Hello, almost a perfect player but adding files to the playlists is not simple, especially if you are already playing a file, ot should be displayed in the right click menu. On the other hand, I think some options displayed in this menu are not really necessary. It would be nice to be able to configure which buttons are displyed -maybe it is too difficult, I don't anything to programming).

Anyway, I've brrn using xmplay for more than 3 years, I never even thought once about using another player.

Thanks for everything.

[Dotpitch]

Hello, almost a perfect player but adding files to the playlists is not simple, especially if you are already playing a file, ot should be displayed in the right click menu. On the other hand, I think some options displayed in this menu are not really necessary. It would be nice to be able to configure which buttons are displyed -maybe it is too difficult, I don't anything to programming).

Do you mean the system tray menu? What exactly are you missing and what don't you use? Have you tried creating a shortcut to bring up the 'Add file'-dialog?

[saga]

I tried to randomize my queued tunes, but I found that shuffling the queue is only possible by using a shortcut. I first doubted that such a function exists until I checked the shortcuts configuration. So, for the mini playlist, it would be kind of nice to have a context menu item for shuffling.

[kstuart]

Okay, I will be honest with you, because I think it is for the best.

I am enthusiastic about the underlying audio technology of XMPlay, but the GUI (interface) is just about hopeless.    The interface is quite reasonable for a 1999 PC, but is quite clunky for 2011.

Personally, I don't care much about what the interface looks like, but all of the information needs to be on the screen at the same time.  The method of having to find a tiny button, using your mouse, to change from one small bit of information to another is painful.

If you stand up at the Wednesday Night Chess Club and ask "How many people here cannot make it on Wednesday Nights ?" of course, no one raises their hand.   This does not mean that there are not many people out there who like chess, but are busy on Wednesday nights.

Similarly, people looking for software try various different ones and then just use whichever works for them - they don't describe why they are not using the other ones.  So, you are only hearing from the people who do not have problems with the current XMPlay GUI.

I suspect that the interface for XMPlay is based on Windows GUI development software that is far more difficult and constrained than what is available today.

The reason for that guess is that I very recently discovered that a single programmer, in his spare time over the past 2-3 years, has taken the same BASS audio library and created a new player that has all the fine audio performance of XMPlay, but uses a much easier and more intuitive interface.    The speed with which this was accomplished, would seem to indicate that much better GUI development software was employed.

I won't mention the other player out of respect to the venue.    But I think XMPlay needs a new GUI from scratch, and I suspect that in the long run, that might actually save development time.

[Pike84]

I am enthusiastic about the underlying audio technology of XMPlay, but the GUI (interface) is just about hopeless.    The interface is quite reasonable for a 1999 PC, but is quite clunky for 2011.

Personally, I don't care much about what the interface looks like, but all of the information needs to be on the screen at the same time.  The method of having to find a tiny button, using your mouse, to change from one small bit of information to another is painful.

The most active users on the forum are mostly long time users, who've had time to get used to the quirks of the GUI (plus the use of many shortcut keys), so it's understandable, that we don't hear too much complaints about it. I haven't pressed the matter myself, because I don't have a major problem with it either, but I can see your point. I don't exactly agree that all the info needs to be on the screen at the same time, but it should be possible to have it there (perhaps this was what you actually meant?).

I don't think the GUI needs any major overhaul though, a simple solution is available: just make it possible to have all those different views in their own windows, and the buttons by which you now switch through them separate, so that they open their designated windows regardless of the others.

[Jimmy Neutron]

Personally, I don't care much about what the interface looks like, but all of the information needs to be on the screen at the same time.  The method of having to find a tiny button, using your mouse, to change from one small bit of information to another is painful.

Pardon me for saying so, but it seems you just haven't found a skin that you like.  There is a skinning kit... maybe you or one of other chess players might have a go at it?

And can you explain to me why your complaint about the GUI is that you have to use a "mouse"?  Isn't that what a GUI is?  You've certainly got me confused!

[amit]

...I think XMPlay needs a new GUI from scratch, and I suspect that in the long run, that might actually save development time.

It is better to give concrete suggestions thus pointing out better alternatives to the current problems.
Keep in mind Ian tries to keep xmplay using minimal resources while maintaining high efficiency.

[raina]

Changing the interface toolkit to something more modern would probably mean tossing out legacy Windows support. To my understanding XMPlay still runs on Windows 95 out of the box. Not that I particularly care, just saying.

I won't mention the other player out of respect to the venue.

Please do, I'm interested to see how it does things instead of guessing by your general description.

[samplah!]

Precisely the GUI (with some skin of all there) is one of the reasons, only one, i still use XMPlay.
And if you don't like any of current skins, you can do it yourself. 

[Pike84]

Any opinions on my suggestion? I think it could really be a nice way to improve the interface without having to make any big changes. There have been some hopes earlier to be able to show several of the different views at the same time.

[samplah!]

ah yes! Pike84, that's one of the suggestions i have on mind since many months ago. I vote for it 

[samplah!]

here i go with some more suggestions for our XMPlay:

Miscellaneous:

• Check to enable/disable crossfade (now the only way is to move length time to 0s, not so fast and comfortable)

Options/DSP:

• New set 0dB button
• Save/load custom EQs

GUI:

• Save both positions of main window (normal and mini mode). This is because many skins normal and mini modes have different sizes among othe things

Extended playlist:

• Show anyway, anywhere that XMPlay is updating titles (when it's doing it).

Maybe some of them are already done or have already been said by someone.  

[Dotpitch]

New set 0dB button

Right-click on the sliders to reset them to 0 dB (auto-amp and equalizer).

Save both positions of main window (normal and mini mode). This is because many skins normal and mini modes have different sizes among othe things

When is this causing problems? Does the window ever fall outside the screen?

[samplah!]

hey Dotpitch, thanks for reminding me that. 

About the second point, yes with some skins window falls outside the screen, for example Sterling one. If you locate the main window in the upper left corner, when you change it to mini mode, the window (in mini mode) falls outside the screen.
It's not a big problem, just a little annoying.

What i think would be good, is having two locations saved, one for the main window in normal mode and other for the window in mini mode.
Of course, this hasn't sense for some skins. 

[Pike84]

I'm pretty sure I've asked for this before, and I'm actually a little bit unsure if it wasn't implemented at some point (couldn't find anything in the readme, or browsing the options)...

Could there be some kind of a list of recently played tracks to view, a kind of history? At least with just limited functionality, like being able to play or queue a track from there. I often have a large playlist, and press the random track button repeatedly to find a tune to fit my mood, and sometimes I'm a bit hasty and would like to go back on a track I just skipped. It could be useful/interesting to see recently played tracks anyway.

Well, I just realized that it's possible to see this in the library's "Last play" column, but it's not optimal, for example if you don't want to mess with your library view, or just don't use the library much at all. It would be nice if there was a separate view for this (just a simple one, like the "Find tracks" window), preferably with a shortcut key.