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« Reply #320 on: 14 Jul '11 - 18:15 » |
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Why not place it in the right-click menu of the playlist window? That would be most appropriate, I think.
I'm not sure. In some ways, the history menu may be better placed in the playlist window, but on the otherhand, it might be useful to be able to access it when in mini-mode with the playlist not visible. I guess an XMPLAY.INI setting could be added to disable the track history and return the play button's right-click action to playing a random track. This appeals perhaps to only me but could it be done (maybe through a secret setting) that the main panel goes to tray automatically after X minutes? I have Windows set to turn off the monitor after 3 minutes and when the panel is visible there is still desktop activity which does not make the monitor turn off. Over the top suggestion? Yep. Would it be nice? Definitely  That's strange, I don't think XMPlay being visible should normally stop the monitor turning off (that should only be the case if fullscreen visuals are active). Have you done something special to have it behave like that? |
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« Reply #321 on: 14 Jul '11 - 22:58 » |
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I'm not sure. In some ways, the history menu may be better placed in the playlist window...
How about adding the history menu to the library button if it is there, otherwise to the extended list button? |
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« Reply #322 on: 15 Jul '11 - 10:10 » |
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That's strange, I don't think XMPlay being visible should normally stop the monitor turning off (that should only be the case if fullscreen visuals are active). Have you done something special to have it behave like that?
Uhhmmm, pfff, embarrassing. Today it does not behave like that at all  Sorry, nevermind this. Solved by sheer mentioning  |
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« Reply #324 on: 15 Jul '11 - 20:44 » |
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Jimmy Neutron
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« Reply #325 on: 15 Jul '11 - 22:38 » |
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I don't have any visualization Uh... maybe not, but the old method that XMPlay used may have been preventing the monitor from turning off, same as the other person's problem of not turning the computer off. You see... in both situations, the computer thought there was activity. |
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Ian @ un4seen
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« Reply #326 on: 18 Jul '11 - 17:52 » |
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How about adding the history menu to the library button if it is there, otherwise to the extended list button?
There may not be an extended list button either  Uh... maybe not, but the old method that XMPlay used may have been preventing the monitor from turning off, same as the other person's problem of not turning the computer off. You see... in both situations, the computer thought there was activity.
That stuff in the other thread only comes into play when fullscreen visuals are active, so I don't think that would explain it. Perhaps there was another app running at the same time that was preventing the monitor sleeping in this case. |
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Jimmy Neutron
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« Reply #327 on: 18 Jul '11 - 18:56 » |
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Also, one more tiny question: would it be possible to avoid showing the font warning ("this skin uses a font that you do not have...") after changing the skin (and at every startup of the player or at least not to show it during start-up?
I will probably add an option to disable the font warning dialogs. While researching some older messages for I came across the above exchange from June 2003. I didn't see anything further about the topic. It is a bother to always click on "OK" before the skin loads, but is seems the only alternative is to just employ a different font and not tell the user, which isn't ideal either. Is this how the issue ended? |
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« Reply #328 on: 18 Jul '11 - 20:26 » |
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How about adding the history menu to the library button if it is there, otherwise to the extended list button?
There may not be an extended list button either You could fall back to the info window context menu if both library or extended list are missing...but seriously I still think the long left click on the play button is the least obstructive and most logical way to add the history list.This is my last comment on the subject |
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« Reply #329 on: 22 Jul '11 - 17:05 » |
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Also, one more tiny question: would it be possible to avoid showing the font warning ("this skin uses a font that you do not have...") after changing the skin (and at every startup of the player or at least not to show it during start-up?
I will probably add an option to disable the font warning dialogs. While researching some older messages for I came across the above exchange from June 2003. I didn't see anything further about the topic. It is a bother to always click on "OK" before the skin loads, but is seems the only alternative is to just employ a different font and not tell the user, which isn't ideal either. Is this how the issue ended? Yep, it doesn't look like anything actually changed in the end, ie. the font warning dialog is still shown today. |
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« Reply #330 on: 22 Jul '11 - 18:01 » |
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Yep, it doesn't look like anything actually changed in the end, ie. the font warning dialog is still shown today.
Thanks. Not a problem at all. |
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« Reply #331 on: 23 Jul '11 - 16:24 » |
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About the history menu: I don't think the play button is ideal for the menu, and I'd naturally prefer my own suggestion . Note, that there are not that many buttons, that would be available always and without question anyway. ...it might be useful to be able to access it when in mini-mode with the playlist not visible. Well... I think someone using the minimode a lot should already be accustomed to using shortcut keys, so I'd rather see this as a minor issue . I guess an XMPLAY.INI setting could be added to disable the track history and return the play button's right-click action to playing a random track. That's nice, I'd rather have the play button as it was, but I hope you can add a shortcut key for the history menu too (I guess the position of the menu would depend on the placement of the cursor, but that won't cause much trouble, would it?). [edit]Oh, and I had a small suggestion too: could it be made so that Ctrl+up/down (default key) would move the playlist view to the selected track even if it wasn't loaded? Perhaps alternately to the first queue item, if there is a queue. |
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« Reply #332 on: 24 Jul '11 - 01:34 » |
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About the history menu:
I don't think the play button is ideal for the menu I'd have to agree; almost always I play song lists as random and have been used to a single right click on the pause button to skip past a song I don't want to hear at the moment and move on to another random selection. I was surprised recently to find the history/random menu now when right clicking the pause button. |
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« Reply #333 on: 24 Jul '11 - 02:17 » |
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i also agree right clicking on the pause button is not the best place for the history menu, if u see other players most of them have that history menu placed below the open files/directories and since we do not have those menus yet available in the main panel and in mini mode, i think it would be better to add those new menus to both modes normal and mini and below that the history menu and thus no need for a secret xmplay ini, besides it would make the interface easier for users not to mention its advantage
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Jimmy Neutron
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« Reply #334 on: 24 Jul '11 - 15:44 » |
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I've got some confusion about the "save list" feature.
Right-clicking on the button in Playlist will offer Save and Load selections. Right-clicking on the button in Library doesn't do a thing.
I got to this point by wanting to save a portion of a playlist. For example, out of a list of 30 entries, I selected five of them and tried to save just those five to a list. While it looked like it worked, the list included all 30 entries.
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« Reply #335 on: 24 Jul '11 - 17:40 » |
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Hmm... The button doesn't have any right click function in any of the views (small/big playlist, library) from what I can tell. You're not confusing it to the "Auto-load settings" button that has the same symbol?
Saving just selected tracks to a playlist sounds like a nice option.
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« Reply #336 on: 24 Jul '11 - 19:06 » |
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The button doesn't have any right click function in any of the views (small/big playlist, library) from what I can tell. It does, but only after you've saved a playlist file. Right-clicking on the button in Library doesn't do a thing. What would you expect it to do there? Quick load/save doesn't make sense for library exports, and having a quick save for the playlist when viewing the library is strange as well. |
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« Reply #337 on: 24 Jul '11 - 23:51 » |
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Right-clicking on the button in Library doesn't do a thing. What would you expect it to do there? Quick load/save doesn't make sense for library exports, and having a quick save for the playlist when viewing the library is strange as well. Well, I have to admit that load makes no sense in terms of library. I was really looking for a way to select some entries (either from the library or the playlist) and then write/save a pls or m3u of just those entries. I suppose that certain entries from the library could be added to an otherwise empty playlist, and then that whole playlist written to a pls. Dunno.... seems it could be a bit more elegant than that? |
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« Reply #338 on: 25 Jul '11 - 23:55 » |
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A question : in windows 7's taskbar , right clicking xmplay icon (if it is pinned or active) displays "recent" list of tracks/playlists. What are those files? That list doesn't change no matter what I play or open from file explorer. Is there a way to show there the actual recent played tracks?
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Ian @ un4seen
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« Reply #339 on: 26 Jul '11 - 14:32 » |
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Oh, and I had a small suggestion too: could it be made so that Ctrl+up/down (default key) would move the playlist view to the selected track even if it wasn't loaded? Perhaps alternately to the first queue item, if there is a queue.
Dropping the Ctrl key from that should bring the selected track into view Regarding the history menu thing... it is a history of recent playback (not necessarily of what files have recently been added to XMPlay), which is why I figured the "Play" button is a fairly logical place for it, but here's an update in which it has been moved to the main panel's right-click menu... www.un4seen.com/stuff/xmplay.exeI got to this point by wanting to save a portion of a playlist...
Nice idea; I think that could be particularly useful when saving a playlist from the library. The update above includes an option to only include the selected tracks in the saved playlist. A question : in windows 7's taskbar , right clicking xmplay icon (if it is pinned or active) displays "recent" list of tracks/playlists. What are those files? That list doesn't change no matter what I play or open from file explorer. Is there a way to show there the actual recent played tracks?
Strange, I'm not seeing that, so I'm not sure what it is. When do files get added to the list, eg. when using XMPlay's file selector? |
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