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[Rah'Dick]

Hey...

I had to reinstall my Windows very often in the last time without being able to keep my registry settings...
You never know when Windoze doesn't like to do it's job anymore

So I think it would be cooler to shift from "XMPlay-settings-savin'-in-the-registry" to an INI-file that keeps all settings through any reinstallation and even allows copying your settings to another PC without jerking around with yer registry. (I know how to do it, tho', but I'm too lazy to export my reg anyway )

Give it a try

[Keltic Danor]

Well I know I'd be the first to try and dodge any possibility of physical exertion.

But isn't exporting the xmplay config out of the registry and keeping somewhere easy enough. (You only need to do it once).

Keltic

[Rah'Dick]

Yeah, but take this case:
You tweaked long and hard ( ) to get your XMP-settings as you like them - now you have them, want to go to yer registry and export them... Suddenly your screen flicks blue and some light grey message is telling you about something "0E"... You reboot - "Cannot load KERNEL32.DLL - please reinstall Windows."
...You fail to reinstall it, the error stays there, whatever you do... So you delete your Windows-folder unter DOS and install it freshly...
The registry is gone and so are all your settings and tweaks.

This is just an example, but something like this has happened to me more than ten times this year.  

That's why I like to have all my settings in an INI-file - that has even more advantages!
If you changed any setting you had to re-export it from the registry - with an INI-file you would just close XMP2 and that would be it - settings saved.

Btw, @Ian: I noticed that the XMP-Icon is 64x64 pixels - may I tell you that the biggest "legal" icon format is 48x48 (24bit)? (I know, C++ Ressource Workshop supports them, but Windows doesn't! Even the Plus!-Pack icons are not bigger than 48x48.)

[Ian @ un4seen]

hmmm... I didn't know about a 48x48 limit, which Windows versions have that limit? There have not been any problems displaying the XMPlay icon on any systems that I've tried.

Btw, RegEdit can be run from DOS as well as Windows. So...

regedit /e xmplay.reg "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Unforeseen Developments\XMPlay2"

...will export the XMPlay stuff

[Pike84]

I give that separate playlist -idea full support   Would be cool

[Rah'Dick]

By "not supported" I mean, that the icon won't be displayed at its full size - it will be resized to fit 32x32 pixels or, if you have set "Big Icons" in your display settings, to 48x48 - in all Windows versions.
I have created a new XMPlay2-Icon which you can have a look at here. It contains seperate images for 16x16 (small Explorer view) and 32x32 pixels (Desktop size).

And, Ian, I program for myself (Delphi) and therefore I know that INI-file creating and accessing is even easier than to access the Reg   I think this will be similar to C++ (or whatever you're using)
Not to mention the advantage that you don't explicitely have to export (and import) your registry everytime you changed something, but just start the program and have yer settings.

[Keltic Danor]

I guess its just a matter of opinion.

I'm a fan of the amiga and c64 days, so I'm using to single file progs, that put all there config files in one place or where I tell it to.

Which is one reason I like XMplay, among other programs like Popcorn (email client), are small fast bloat-free programs which I thought was'nt possible on windows unless you programmed it in assembly(or were incredibly good at c++).

If you like I can knock up a program which, when run, it exports the xmplay config, would that be easier.

Keltic

[Keltic Danor]

It fact why not just write up a .bat file instead.

Double click, done.

Maybe even put it in the startup, so its backed-up every time you boot.

Keltic

[Keltic Danor]

I noticed one thing a bit strange.

If I use WAV-writer (or anything else in xmplay), if I then try and convert it into an ogg using oggdrop it produces an error.

Using other progs works fine, is this with oggdrop(and oggenc) or xmplay. Also is the Output Error with the "?" supposed to popup if you press cancel on writing a wav.

Here's maybe a couple of miscellaneous idea's:

- an option to disable tool-tips
- an option for xmplay to be always on top (even in normal mode)

Just some frivolity.

Oh, by the way I found a svp that xmplay would'nt recognise (unless it's a broken one, in which case oh well. )

[Keltic Danor]

There's also a problem with some mp3 files that it misreads the file on loading them into the playlist.

For example I load 5 mp3's into a list, if any of them use ID3 tag v2 that I use, instead of the file name it will appear as:
AudioTrack09.mp3 instead of SoLikeARose.mp3

This is what it originally was, so it seems to be misreading any ID3 V2 tag, I can upload an example mp3 if you like.

[Ian @ un4seen]

Could be that the file has conflicting ID3v2 and ID3v1 tags... upload away

[Keltic Danor]

There we go, I uploaded the MP3, I botched it up the first time, sorry bout that.

I also uploaded a svp that aparantly is a bit dodgy with XMplay, no biggy, just thought you'd like to see it.

To see whats wrong with the mp3 just open it up with a few other songs.

[Ian @ un4seen]

Yep, it indeed has conflicting ID3v2 and ID3v1 tags

When you first add it to the list it says the title according to the ID3v2 tag, and then when you play it, it says the title according to the ID3v1 tag.

I've already changed XMPlay to always use the ID3v1 title over any ID3v2 version for the next release.

That SVP file is actually a ZIP file, unzip it and it'll work

[Keltic Danor]

Cheers

So it was just zipped, I probably should have looked at that, oh well, it works fine (although, it seems I already had it, bummer huh )

Oh and by the way, if anyone interested, I'm trying to write a bass plugin for ghisler (unless ofcourse someone else has it in the works as well). Just wondering how you want it to work.

[Ralesk]

Well, nice from you to take it I think we need a play-and-pause button, some information displayed with a scrollbar, and switch between types of info... or something like that.
And a seeking bar we need too.

Thanks ^_^

[Keltic Danor]

Windows Commander (Ghisler) does not at this current time support audio plugins.

At the moment it uses Media Player with mci codecs to play mp3/anything in lister, but that's it.

So unfortunately this means, I can't write a plugin for it.

Maybe in a later release of windows commander, or with a different explorer replacement. But until then, no go I'm afraid.

[Ralesk]

Mentioned this to Christian too? He might as well implement audio plugin support to 4.55 or something. support@ghisler.com

[Keltic Danor]

That info was from christian himself, and he did'nt say anything about any future implentation of audio plugin support.

So I would'nt have a clue about the whether he's considering it or not. I doubt it though. :-/

Actually, while we're on the topic of audio support. Any chance of using the sidplay2.dll for sid tunes.

[Ralesk]

Yea! SID 6581!! I wanna I wanna I wanna!

Well, silly Ghisler hasn't even heard about XMPlay -- not even the old one --, just that icky WinAmp... so what do we expect

Ian, any kind of reaction for the Speed/Tempo display?
About the Add to list button... I kinda liked the old way of working, someone liking autoplay of tracks doesn't necessarily want to clear his/her list on any newly added file. I also don't feel like right clicking to delete duplicates, there should be an option for automation of this event (just as for the verification of the files).

As for the playlist views... umm, mind initialising them in a way so that the selected song is shown? For example, my 138th song on the list is selected when XMPlay starts, because it was the last one played, and still, both playlists will initialise to 1st row. Could XMPlay also remember whether the info window had been open before exiting and which view had been active in it?

That's all for now I think.

Well, a small addition here. In Mini mode, there is a bright line right below the counter. how about colouring it according to the position in the song so we can see how long a song is actually?
And please do something about the window, I can't see whether it is active or not... Like, recolour the XMPlay and title texts and the minimize/exit buttons... or something

[samsped]

Some times ago I think about:
"Why music bothers".
And I was occurred with idea:
"New instrument in pattern must to start
with some time before or some time after by
small random value, than need. I think
that every time music will differ and will
create the effect of alive sounding"
If it's no origial idea, i wont to listen
player with such algorithm.