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[Tsorovan]

Annoying question: what's the rational explanation for keeping the output options panel at all? Okay, you might say it's good for people who like to do conversions and external encoding and other shenanigans oftentimes, but for those who sit and change those thingamabobs all the time could it not then be kept to the Save... dialog? Saveable info of course.

[Ralesk]

What has the save FILE dialog got to do with the fiddling you do while listening, even if you do that only once in a lifetime?

[Tsorovan]

I wasn't clear enough, sorry.
The output options are mostly something you set once (or few times) unless you render tracks to WAV or use the external encoder. So, the output options could be in the options dialog and mirrored (with a checkbox saying "always use these options" or something) in the save dialog. With the checkbox checked, the dialog would pop up for the first track you want to process in the save dialog, otherwise just quietly go on with the whole deal, yes? Stupid idea? If I'm wrong let me know.

That would make it possible to get rid of the left panel altogether. Just a thought...

[Vesh]

I'm sure this is a sticky, evil question, but will we be able to skin the options window eventually?  >=]

I can think of some sweet ways to handle skinning those tabs. Programatically and graphically.

[Tsorovan]

Jesus God Almighty from Nazareth the glam rock band...

[Brightguy]

It would make the default XMPlay GUI kind of unbalanced (maybe not as much as you would think...), but indeed it seems as if the Output Options panel does not need to be used and could be removed.

I'll just use the "Options and stuff" window from now on, so it makes you wonder why this panel was singled out to not be removed.  (Perhaps it would have looked all right if all the panels were still accessible from the left panel.  I find it odd that only one panel was left; yet this panel is still included in the new window.)  All the options from every panel (plus extras from playlist & info window) are available from "Options and stuff".

[Tsorovan]

You are right it would make the UI unbalanced...if one is actually using that 10-track playlist (I'm sure that's what you're hinting at, aye?) or if one prefers symmetric aesthetics over functionality. I for one can't understand why one would use the little bugger, but that's not for me to decide I suppose.

Then again, this is nothing I, myself, really need, because I've removed that thing in my own skin, plus I run the program in mini-mode at all times, so I'm not bothered by it. But just for usability's sake (and glorious minimalism) I thought it would be a nice thing.

Ah well, time to digest this new version for a while before revising my list of ultimata, Napoleon style!

[Off Topic]
BTW, can anyone think of a way to design a non-sucking lower-case 'e' at 4x4 pixels? Ah...no you say? Ack, too bad. I need a high-end monitor so I don't have to resort to making my own custom hinted fonts. 1280x960 on a 19" is gruesome.

[Torkell]

While moving to a common option dialog is both good and bad, losing the left panel totally is a bad thing, as it's a lot more useful than an extra dialog for getting at the equaliser, reverb, auto-amp etc. It's easier to get at it that way than to pull up another dialog, IMO.

[Brightguy]

« Last Edit: July 26th, 2003, 13:37pm by Ian @ un4seen »


Woah Boggy, you really did figure out the secrets of YaBB, or something.    Good signature!

First of all, look at the time: 13:37pm (er--impossible! And look at the numbers.)
Second of all, how could Ian have edited the message three days before it was even posted!

Heh... BoggyB's really playing around with us...toying with our minds!

[Torkell]

It's not impossible - « Last Edit: July 29th, 2003, 13:37 by Ian @ un4seen »

[Tsorovan]

BoggyB: not wanting to make a big debate out of this, but isn't those settings mostly set-and-forget type of settings?
Wouldn't it make more sense to have the search window in the options dialogue as a separate window than what output options in the left panel does? As a comparison of UI functionality precedence, that is.
Ah well... no biggie.

[edited due to the shittiest grammar on Earth]

[Torkell]

Not always - and you'd soend a lot of time tweaking them in the first place, anyway. I just find it more useful with them there still.

[Ian @ un4seen]

Brightguy & Tsorovan... The "Output Options" panel was kept because it contains stuff (amp/eq/reverb/etc) that it's useful to be able to access quickly without having to open another window (or maybe while you're doing other things in the "Options and stuff" window). Whereas the other left panels contained options that would probably be used very rarely - you'ld likely set the options once, and leave them like that - so it made no sense to keep those panels, with the new "Options and stuff" window.

Removing all the left panels would also seriously break most existing skins... a big hole in "Vintage", for example

[Torkell]

Missed that bit about the search window in your post - that would be a good thing to do, as it doesn't make sense having it with the options dialog (you're not changing any settings).

[Torkell]

Just had to post this: :evil: :evil: :evil:

FYI: did you know Doom runs on TCP port 666? Unsuprising, given that it was the first major first-person shooter.

[Rah3D]

How evil :evil:

Anyone's got a comment about the new versions of X-RD2506 and Windows Classic?

[Torkell]

What are the chances of the number of views being just right? It had gone up to 673 views after I posted that.

Anyway, like the new versions of Windows Classic & XD-R2506. I think the battery quage should be more like those ones you get which are segmented:

+------------+
|  /   /   / +-+
| /   /   /    |
|/   /   /   +-+
+------------+

Hope that shows you what I mean.

[Rah3D]

Yea, I know... Like the ones that you see on cell phones for example.

Well, I thought about that a long time but I decided that such a display wouldn't need as much space as I had to fill with a new button... So I used the kind of battery capacity display that you'll find on new SONY (tape) Walkmen.

[Zarggg]

Wait, there's a "battery guage" on Thomas's new skin? I missed something there...

[Philidor11]

I logged in while reading this thread, but I didn't write anything.  Still, the listing showed me with the most recent post.
I didn't write anything... uhm, until now.
How did it know I would post??

I'd been thinking about asking whether Skins should have versioninfo.  The board wants me to do it...