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Author Topic: Opus,, anyone?  (Read 3425 times)
Oggster
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« on: 17 Jul '12 - 15:07 »
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Hello,

any plans to implement opus playback? http://listening-tests.hydrogenaudio.org/igorc/results.html
, http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=86580.

Bye!!!
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Oggster
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« Reply #1 on: 17 Jul '12 - 15:12 »
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Hello,

damn.. I forgot to tell the offical Homepage.  Cry

http://opus-codec.org/

Bye...
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Dotpitch
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« Reply #2 on: 17 Jul '12 - 18:43 »
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I'd certainly like that as well, even though the primary purpose of this encoder is not music. The bitstream is (more or less) frozen and libraries are available from Xiph.
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Ian @ un4seen
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« Reply #3 on: 18 Jul '12 - 17:55 »
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I'm looking into it. It's early days, but I think there could be something ready to try within a week or so Smiley
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Oggster
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« Reply #4 on: 19 Jul '12 - 14:00 »
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Hello Ian,

sounds great, thank you!

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Ian @ un4seen
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« Reply #5 on: 24 Jul '12 - 17:24 »
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OK. Here's something to try...

   www.un4seen.com/stuff/xmp-opus.dll

All of the usual stuff should be supported, including internet streaming. It seems to be working quite nicely, but it hasn't been tested very much yet, so please report any problems.
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Dotpitch
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« Reply #6 on: 24 Jul '12 - 20:56 »
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I briefly tried it, seems to work without a problem Smiley. Plays audio correctly, reads the tags, seeking is swift. I'll try some encoder setting variations tomorrow.
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An2aN
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« Reply #7 on: 25 Jul '12 - 16:20 »
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I also test this and it work Smiley


Offtop:
On very low bitrate encoders with SBR is more preferred for "music". This encoder simply cut frequency.
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White-Tiger
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« Reply #8 on: 25 Jul '12 - 17:15 »
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wow that went fast Tongue Good job, worked for me as well Wink (and at least in my case, Opus is about 1 MiB smaller then the original MP3 and I can't hear any difference)
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Dotpitch
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« Reply #9 on: 26 Jul '12 - 06:28 »
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It correctly plays everything the encoder makes Smiley. What's with "Samplerate: 48000 Hz (originally 44100 Hz)" btw? I've never seen XMPlay show that before.
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Ian @ un4seen
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« Reply #10 on: 26 Jul '12 - 17:27 »
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Yep, that "originally" business doesn't currently apply to any other formats. Opus files have a sample rate of 48000 Hz, but the original rate may be stored in the file header and XMPlay will display that when it is (and it isn't 48000 Hz).
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Oggster
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« Reply #11 on: 26 Jul '12 - 22:36 »
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Hello,

seems to work very nicely.. thanks for the effort, you rock dude. Cheesy

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Dotpitch
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« Reply #12 on: 5 Aug '12 - 20:51 »
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Message tab of the Info Window:
ENCODER opusenc from opus-tools 0.1.3
Date 2012-05-04T07:00:00Z
Now, I know this is just a bad tag, but there are no proper taggers available (yet) for Opus files. IIRC, there was a similar issue with the date tag with xmp-aac, is that right? Could you put in the same workaround?

Btw, xmp-opus is dong a great job Smiley. It properly reads opus-in-ogg as well, and is not acting up on non-Opus files.
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Ian @ un4seen
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« Reply #13 on: 6 Aug '12 - 13:11 »
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Opus tags are stored in "name=value" form (like Ogg Vorbis), so the Opus plugin doesn't need to do anything special and just displays the tags as they are (after removing the '='). I don't recall a date problem with the AAC plugin; was there a thread/post about that? MP4 tags are stored quite differently though, so it probably wouldn't be the same problem anyway Smiley
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Dotpitch
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« Reply #14 on: 6 Aug '12 - 16:49 »
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I don't recall a date problem with the AAC plugin; was there a thread/post about that?
Yes, there is. Actually, there is no workaround implemented for MP4, as it's still on the list of suggestions.

Apparently, I myself posted a workaround for using this tag format in the title formatting (cut{%4|4|}, neat!), but it still looks weird in the Year column of the library.
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Ian @ un4seen
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« Reply #15 on: 7 Aug '12 - 14:56 »
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OK. Rather than modifying individual plugins to trim the tag to just the year part, here's an XMPlay update that will do it for all...

   www.un4seen.com/stuff/xmplay.exe

Let me know if there is still any problem with it.
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Dotpitch
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« Reply #16 on: 7 Aug '12 - 16:13 »
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Thanks, works fine Smiley.
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Zarggg
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« Reply #17 on: 8 Aug '12 - 23:10 »
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Is anyone actually using Opus yet?
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Dotpitch
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« Reply #18 on: 9 Aug '12 - 16:41 »
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Playback support is present in a handful of applications by now, but I'm not aware of any radio station actually using Opus right now.

Opus 1.0.0RC was released yesterday btw, so it won't be long before the final version arrives.
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« Reply #19 on: 9 Aug '12 - 21:09 »
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Some .opus demo files are available here.

Direct links follow:
http://people.xiph.org/~giles/2012/opus/ehren-paper_lights-64.opus
http://people.xiph.org/~giles/2012/opus/detodos.opus
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