Author Topic: XMPlay 2.7 suggestions  (Read 83549 times)

uRRada

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XMPlay 2.7 suggestions
« on: 18 Jan '03 - 13:57 »
Just tried to add *.avi and *.mpeg files in playlist )))) LOL

That make me think of some suggestions for xmplay:

1) XMPLAY could play all sound from the video file (music from video clips for example)
2) If somebody could make visualization plugin that show video stream to visualization window of XMPLAY

In addition I can mention here maybe the smallest video player I ever seen:
http://www.moopeg.comMoopeg uses:
- win32 API
- DirectShow
- Third party codecs installed on your system

Good Luck

Vadim Y.

Zarggg

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Re: XMPlay 2.7 suggestions
« Reply #1 on: 18 Jan '03 - 22:00 »
You can already get the Tara plug-in for XMPlay at the support site.  It does pretty much that, even though it's a little buggy.  Just make sure you have Real Player installed or it will go bonkers. ::)
« Last Edit: 18 Jan '03 - 22:08 by Zarggg »

Pike84

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Re: XMPlay 2.7 suggestions
« Reply #2 on: 18 Jan '03 - 23:30 »
Suggestions then, eh? Ok, here's a couple of :) :

1. Fix the track queuing (mentioned in 'XMPlay 2.6' -thread).
(modified) As Tsorovan is praising options now, I came to think about making an option considering this too. Options allow everyone to be happy :D
2. Make the equalizer bigger, or - better yet - make possible to change the number of bands. I know, more bands consume more CPU (tho not, how much ???), so the latter one would be good.
3. Make possible to open the playlist in a separate window from the info window ('about playlist organisation' -thread).

That's all I can think of now..
« Last Edit: 19 Jan '03 - 20:35 by Pike84 »

Vimmy_Dramon

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Re: XMPlay 2.7 suggestions
« Reply #3 on: 20 Jan '03 - 01:38 »
Hey there! ^_^
I'm a Friend of Ralesk's and he demanded I posted my suggestion for XMplay's future release on here ^_^

I think it would be a fantastic feature to have a drag-over multi-select. I thought of this because although there IS a multi-select in this latest build, it's quite slow and cumbersom to click on each file individually. By all means keep this in! however, here's my additional suggestion:
Ralesk DID point out that this couldn't be done in the conventional way since left-clicking and holding down will move the file around the playlist.
So, my suggestion was that you could use the right-mouse-button to perform this function ^_^
If you know about Total(Windows) Commander ( http://www.ghisler.com/ ), Then you will know how they have implimented this feature: The right mouse-button does the usual mouse-menu functions, but it is also used to multi-drag-select files by holding the button down.

It would be fanastic to see this feature in a future build of XMplay!
I love the player ^_^ and I hope this suggestion helps you guys make it even better!

Vimmy

Ian @ un4seen

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Re: XMPlay 2.7 suggestions
« Reply #4 on: 20 Jan '03 - 14:57 »
You can select a block of tracks using the standard shift-left click method... I think that's what you're wanting to do? :)

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2. Make the equalizer bigger, or - better yet - make possible to change the number of bands. I know, more bands consume more CPU (tho not, how much ???), so the latter one would be good.
3. Make possible to open the playlist in a separate window from the info window ('about playlist organisation' -thread).

The main problem is neither of these could really work with existing skins.

Ralesk

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Re: XMPlay 2.7 suggestions
« Reply #5 on: 20 Jan '03 - 15:17 »
No, he meant selection by dragging the mouse, just like in Explorer (LMB) or Total Commander / Norton Commander (RMB)

Vimmy_Dramon

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Re: XMPlay 2.7 suggestions
« Reply #6 on: 20 Jan '03 - 15:21 »
Yeah ^_^ The Shift-Click is a great first-step, but it would save a load of time if it were possible to drag the mouse over to select multipul items like in Explorer.
However, I realise that it would not be possible to do it as it is done in Explorer because when you click in the playlist and drag, the song that is selected is moved around the playlist.
So, I suggested that the same Right-click-drag method that is used in TotalCommander would be a better option ^_^

Vimmy

Tsorovan

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Re: XMPlay 2.7 suggestions
« Reply #7 on: 20 Jan '03 - 17:04 »
Another thing tied into this multi-select thing...it's sort of flawed (maybe a strong word) at the moment, as shift+up/down doesn't select stuff (as standard Windows procedure), instead it moves 5 steps up/down in the playlist. Why not make Ctrl+up/down do that instead and make say...Ctrl+Space (or whatever) select current track (as Ctrl+up/down presently does). The present implementation makes (quick, practical) multi selection unuseable with the keyboard. Just a thought...

I'm sure everyone thinks I'm an obnoxious nagging retard -- and well, in that case I apologize for my behaviour -- but I have no ulterior motives past making XMPlay as functional and pleasing as possible for as many people as possible.
« Last Edit: 20 Jan '03 - 17:08 by Tsorovan »

Vimmy_Dramon

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Re: XMPlay 2.7 suggestions
« Reply #8 on: 20 Jan '03 - 18:41 »
Features Maketh the software ^_^

Vimmy

Vimmy_Dramon

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Re: XMPlay 2.7 suggestions
« Reply #9 on: 20 Jan '03 - 18:56 »
Ok ^_^ I got a new suggestion ^_^

Thanks (once more) to Ralesk Letting me know what I'm missing out on, I've gone and downloaded every single Visualisation there is on the site ^_^
HOWEVER: There's now a massive list of Visualisations and to select each one by mouse is a real slow process since the list goes off the screen and I need to use those liddle scrolling arrows to get to the last 30 or so.
Would it be possible to have a key-pair to scroll through the Visualisations? In the same way you can scroll through the song-list by using the Page up / Page down keys?
This would be really time-saving and RSI-Saving too ^_^;

Vimmy

Ralesk

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Re: XMPlay 2.7 suggestions
« Reply #10 on: 20 Jan '03 - 19:07 »
Numpad 8 and 2 do that for you as well as MWHEELUP and MWHEELDOWN :]

Pike84

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Re: XMPlay 2.7 suggestions
« Reply #11 on: 20 Jan '03 - 19:22 »

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No, he meant selection by dragging the mouse, just like in Explorer (LMB) or Total Commander / Norton Commander (RMB)

Uh.. Ralesk, Ian probably understood the post. See, this is the point:
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it's quite slow and cumbersom to click on each file individually

...because you don't have to click on each file individually, if you use shift - just like Ian said.

Jace

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Re: XMPlay 2.7 suggestions
« Reply #12 on: 20 Jan '03 - 19:47 »
If I understood him right, he meant if you want to select a few heaps of files, like #27 - #46 and at the same time #73 - #99 for example.. then it won't work with shift..
Just guessing here though..

- Jacey

Ralesk

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Re: XMPlay 2.7 suggestions
« Reply #13 on: 20 Jan '03 - 20:18 »
Both Kynes and Jacer are correct.  But the dragging method wouldn't allow us to do what Jacer said, either.

Ian @ un4seen

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Re: XMPlay 2.7 suggestions
« Reply #14 on: 20 Jan '03 - 20:50 »
Yep, I was thinking exactly what Kynes said when I read the post. Anyway, all request/suggestions will be considered when it's 2.7 time, so keep'em coming :)

Jace

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Re: XMPlay 2.7 suggestions
« Reply #15 on: 21 Jan '03 - 04:35 »
Ral: Hold Ctrl down when dragging ;))))))

Rah'Dick

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Re: XMPlay 2.7 suggestions
« Reply #16 on: 24 Jan '03 - 02:25 »
@Ian: As I mentioned in my mail concerning the new skin: it would indeed be cool for skinners to make the scollers follow curved paths... I've even got an idea about how to code something like this.  :idea:
« Last Edit: 24 Jan '03 - 02:26 by RahDick »

Pike84

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Re: XMPlay 2.7 suggestions
« Reply #17 on: 30 Jan '03 - 21:16 »
I don't know if this is anything urgent, but I just came to thinking that equalizer size again, and really: it has to get some more bands! Xmplay's equalizer is actually the smallest one I've ever seen anywhere, and compared to ie. Winamp, it's really cumbersome and inaccurate :-/.

I know adding bands would mess things up with the skins, but there's got to be a way..! :'( Really.. Maybe if there is ever going to be any more bands, then they should be added as soon as possible, so that many skins wouldn't have to be modified afterwards. Oh, and the bands could be a bit longer too, like -15<->+15 or -20<->+20.

Nice whining I'm doing here, huh :P? Well the truth is, that Xmplay is already the best player around, but this would be a pretty big improvement in my opinion, so if you could just look into it ;)?

Keltic Danor

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Re: XMPlay 2.7 suggestions
« Reply #18 on: 31 Jan '03 - 12:48 »
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Ral: Hold Ctrl down when dragging ;))))))


oh I'd like that, but the peeps who don't want to touch the keyboard *gasp* :P might not like it as much :)

*hopes he does'nt have to spend 10 hours playing with a 12 band equaliser in future...* ???

I kinda like the small compact one... maybe its just me :-/
« Last Edit: 31 Jan '03 - 12:53 by KelticDanor »

Pike84

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Re: XMPlay 2.7 suggestions
« Reply #19 on: 31 Jan '03 - 15:13 »
Oh, it wouldn't have to be any 12 band.. I thought about ten bands, because Winamp and WMP have that much, for example.. but just eight would be much better, and probably enough, in my opinion.
« Last Edit: 31 Jan '03 - 15:14 by Pike84 »

Philidor11

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Re: XMPlay 2.7 suggestions
« Reply #20 on: 31 Jan '03 - 23:45 »
As far as the bands on the equalizer are concerned, XMPlay is so accurate that I've given up fiddling with it.  I keep all 5 bands at 1.8 to brighten the sound a little and nail the amp to 100% for lower bit rate mp3's (anyone who thinks that 128 sounds like music is usually wrong) and forget it.  I've stopped using reverb because sometimes the results are strange.
Though I do have a few mp3's that are so old I can't hope to find the original CD, and the sound is so poor I ratchet up the base and treble to make the thing pretend it sounds like music.
Anyway, the point is that with a good quality rip and XMPlay and SoundBlaster Live, time spent fiddling with the equalizer is wasted.  The best thing you can do is start experimenting with APE.

Ian, I do have a question about speaker separation.  Some songs from the same album ripped at the same time seem to have a lot more of it than others.  Is that in the original or does the rip vary or does XMPlay have the capacity to respond more or less?
When I do mp3's I use CDex VBR 160-224, which is LAME, I think.  I keep interpolation, ramping, and surround sound on all the time.  
Thanks.

Pike84

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Re: XMPlay 2.7 suggestions
« Reply #21 on: 1 Feb '03 - 20:58 »
I totally disagree "fiddling" with equalizer is time wasted. No matter if it's a high or low quality rip, or if it's Winamp, WMP or Xmplay, with equalizer I can get songs sound better. Also many people find equalizer useful, and those who don't, aren't forced to use it. That's how I think.

henrikf

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Re: XMPlay 2.7 suggestions
« Reply #22 on: 3 Feb '03 - 11:24 »
I would like to have a volumecontrol on the mini-mode view.

Torkell

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Re: XMPlay 2.7 suggestions
« Reply #23 on: 3 Feb '03 - 16:09 »
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I would like to have a volumecontrol on the mini-mode view.

It's possible...
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XMPlay skinning kit readme:
* Mini-mode can now have any of the controls of the main panel

...but someone needs to create/modify a skin to make it happen. You could head over to the XMPlay support site and tinker with one of the skins there.

Jace

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Re: XMPlay 2.7 suggestions
« Reply #24 on: 3 Feb '03 - 17:27 »
Note the new Spherical skin.. It has mini-mode vol slider too ;)