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[Ralesk]

Redgemz, you don't even know us

Vesh: Well, I still wonder why the driver bundled with the OS cd -- which, as I said, is the same for both OSes -- works on one and goes insane on the other... XP also used to lock down explorer.exe -- The Taskbar -- and and then it would come to life again after about a minute. :-/ There are also little bugs with the I log out you log in feature in XP, sometimes my mouse got lost after switching back, sometimes it closed my net connection... Oh and it just LOVES my modem (no new drivers, no support, not even that much as having its name in the list. Only registrable as "Generic 33600 bps modem". Gotta love it.)

Oh well, I'm back to my beloved little win2k and have absolutely no problems with it. Waiting for XP SP1

[Vesh]

Redgemz: *slaps you* :evil: we're just poking fun at each other. If I were trollin, you'd know it - I get just... evil. =]

Ral: Hey, it's a use-what-works thing, then. I do wish you'd give XP another shot, though. If you haven't, do a completely clean card-after-card installation. A lot of the cases on message boards were solved like this. I've seen an I740 work great in XP - it's possible. That temporary lockup sounds like a 'non-existent network drive' problem, though. On a lan?

Newstar: I like the idea of being able to add a directory from the UI itself. Maybe we can get a new entry to the rightclick menu on the

• button?  Hint hint. >=]
  
  Like:
  
  Add File(s)
  Add Directory <---  
  -
  Verify New Files
  Scan HTML Pages
  
  Or go a step further and have a media searcher with multi-tiered checklists like file sharing programs. Those are extremely helpful. Might not be worth the development effort, though.

[Troll]

First... I've strained my eyes recently, so I haven't been
able to read everything that I perhaps should read... solly

-Better playlist editor (the p.e. is the only redeeming quality of winamp)

-I tried to add the 700+ songs on one drive to the playlist, but apparantly that was too much now.

-Modular installation (I REALLY think that skins are useless)

-For some reason, the loop-button always set on auto after a while. It's kind of annoying. And the button should really be easier to use. The contrast level is too low. Even before the strain on my eyes, it took me a week to notice the change.

-It's probably the driver, but I'll post it here anyway,
the latest winamp plugin for MAD crashes the player.

-And on that subject, is it true that winamp is needed for support of winamp plugins? If so, it would be nice to throw that garbage out  


I like the XMPlayer so much, that right now it's the player of (my) choice for my standalone mediaPC with embedded windows98 project. Since I'm going to remote control it, it would be neato if the flaps could be set to open fully with one click in options. (And maybe even the option for cddb info - if it's there, I am going to find it when I can look at the screen again without squinting   )

Thank you for a wonderful player!

[Ian @ un4seen]

Winamp is not required to use the plugins with XMPlay, although it is possible that some plugins' installers might search for Winamp when you try to install them. Btw, I think the CDReader plugin supports CDDB

Redgemz, you don't even know us

Yeah, if 2 consenting adults wish to spank eachother, then so be it

Btw Vesh, how'd you like to create some more skins?

[Redgemz]

::)yeesh, well excuse me then
jes tryin to make the world a little better... but whatever floats your boat, i guess.
On a more serious note, will there be any way to configure XMplay to use keyboard controls (i.e. compaq presario key boards have controls for the cd player that also work in Windows Media Player, maybe they could work on XM?)
And like Troll, I think the non-skin XM1 was jes cool. Maybe skins could be optional?
-_-~

[Keltic Danor]

-Better playlist editor (the p.e. is the only redeeming quality of winamp)

What specifically would you like the playlist to be able to do, its always the favourite topic around these parts, that and midi plugins.

-I tried to add the 700+ songs on one drive to the playlist, but apparantly that was too much now.

This is window's fault (always is isn't it :-/ ). The best way (and only way sometimes) to open a large number of anything, is to drag on and drop it on xmplay's interface.

-Modular installation (I REALLY think that skins are useless)

-For some reason, the loop-button always set on auto after a while. It's kind of annoying. And the button should really be easier to use. The contrast level is too low. Even before the strain on my eyes, it took me a week to notice the change.

Have a little faith, some did'nt wanted plugins either, and look how well that turned out.

All I can say is, that once skins are out there, pretty much all your interface woes will disappear.

-It's probably the driver, but I'll post it here anyway,
the latest winamp plugin for MAD crashes the player.

I don't really think the MAD plugin will coexist that well. Since XMPlay uses it's own excellent mp3 decoder, the only mp3 plugin of use is the default winamp one, which can be used to tag editing.

The quality is comparable so don't worry about getting artifacts or anything nasty.

[newstar]

> I'm not entirely sure what you mean, but if you're wanting
> to open directories or whole disks on the playlist, then just > drag the folder into the playlist bar. XMplay will
> automatically search for and load all playable file types.


It is not absolutely convenient, as I use Windows Commander, and often I start only Xmplay. Or you consider it not necessary?

[Ian @ un4seen]

An "Add directory" option will be in the next release

[Brightguy]

About the playlist editor, I think it can do pretty much about everything Winamp’s can do (e.g. randomize, sort by name).  Probably the main disadvantage compared to Winamp is the fact you can’t have it open simultaneously open with the info windows or visulizations.
(Not counting the small playlist in the right panel... I don't use that when playing long playlists.  No offence...)

Also noticed that XMPlay wont let you right click on a file to check info about it, unless you’re using a plugin.  You actually have to have the file playing to see info on it...

[Olego]

Hi,

Right now I do not have the add to playlist option enabled, so when I drop new files onto XMPlay, they automatically erase the playlist and play the newly-dropped file/directory.  If the file I drop is accidentally of a wrong type, like a *.txt or something silly like that, the current list is erased an the music stops.  Ian, can you reverse the steps of the algorithm, so that first the playability of the file is checked, and then, if it's valid, the action is performed, and otherwise, the music keeps playing, or, at least, stops without erasing the current playlist?  Thanks,

~Olego~

[Keltic Danor]

I'm thinking that might force a bit of a pause when adding heaps of files when you know they are playable.

'sides you can also drop them onto the playlist, and it will still add them. A neat thing is that you can drop the files onto the right-panel handle, so you don't need to have it opened up.

[Olego]

Keltik,

Look at it like this...  Has anyone ever studied Computer Science and learned about streams, or lazy evaluators?  It is basically this: if you have a list of calculations, then you have this structure called a stream.  The first element is a number, and the rest are unevaluated expressions, usually infinite.  So if you need one more, then you just calculate one more, and keep the rest simple.  (I don't think you can create an infinite stream using an infinite loop, do you?  )

Well, anyway, that's the analogy I wanted to list.  Reason's this: if you have a playlist and drop new songs on top of it, it'll have to scan through them anyway 'til it finds the first one that works, and the rest are going to be added to the playlist, right?  (I mean, when I drop the shortcut to music, it doesn't attempt to play xmplay.exe as a module, but it does load all the files into the playlist first.)  I suggest 2 possibilities:

(1) A simple IF statement like this:

if (NumberOfValidDroppedFiles == 0)
   return;
else
   ChangePlaylist(newPlaylist);

(2) No delay version

found = 0;
for (i = 0; i < numDroppedFiles && !found; i++)
  if (ValidModule(droppedArray[i]))
  {
       found = 1;
       ClearPlaylist();
       PlaySong(droppedArray[i]);
  }

for (; i < numDroppedFiles; i++)
/* This is if there was at least 1 good file, and it wasn't the last one */
   if (ValidModule(droppedArray[i]))
       AddToPlaylist(droppedArray[i]);

Sounds amateurish?  Workable?  Makes more sense what I'm trying to say?  

~Olego~

[raina]

I noticed that when listening to files with long songnames (i.e. SIDs are that way always) the only place you can completely see the name is the info window playlist. Since it's nice to look at "punkie" while playing sids it is frustrating to keep changing between playlist view and visualization view just check the title of the track currently playing. So.. what about scrolling the songname in window title and/or sidebar playlist and/or taskbar. Okay a correction: I just noticed that you can get the track title also as a tool tip from XMPlay's task bar button.  But still. It's hard to concentrate on keeping the mouse still that long when jamming to AMJ's "Selfmade executable" or "Unsound minds" or Brite-lite's "Starfall"

[newstar]

Hi.

I offer:

1. To show the name of a composition same as a name of a file, as sometimes information from tags or absolutely is absent or does not correspond to the validity (for example, sometimes there insert the address www). Or even to make an opportunity of a choice of a method of display of the name. Is now displayed only title of a composition and in him the name of the singer is not shown. Also can change colour of the name on white or black, it will be better visible...

2. About " Add directory " option: I consider better to add it on click by the right button of the mouse on the button "Open file(s)", as often playlist does not open in general.

3. It is possible to add current position in the smallest mode?

4. To add an opportunity of playing in the casual order (shuffle) on the right click of the mouse on the button "Loop".

Thanks.

[Vesh]

Yeah, if 2 consenting adults wish to spank eachother, then so be it

Hey!  I... spanked... no one!  =D

Btw Vesh, how'd you like to create some more skins?

I'll probably be available in about 3 weeks from, umm, yesterday.  I'd love to though.  This time, though, yall tell me what you want in a base design. I'm determined to have this one make everybody happy or die trying. =]

In fact, if someone would make a thread devoted to that, it'd help me a lot in seeing what people want.  I was pretty much flying blind the first time based on what I wanted in a design, it'd be cool to do it over with suggestions from everybody.

[Ralesk]

<UnrealTournament>On my way, Blue Leader!</UnrealTournament>

[Pike84]

Right now I do not have the add to playlist option enabled, so when I drop new files onto XMPlay, they automatically erase the playlist and play the newly-dropped file/directory

I've got an idea: Have a button, like shift or something, to be held when drag'n'dropping files on the playlist, to cause the same effect as if you didn't have the add to playlist option enabled.

Well, it's not much, but aren't they the small, handy things that make a difference?

[Pike84]

...or if you didn't have the add to playlist option enabled, it would cause the same effect as if you had the option enabled, or something like that

[Olego]

I have but 1 comment to that.  It's a good idea, but I'm both a mouse and a keyboard user.  With XMPlay, I can controll it entirely via a mouse, and almost entirely via a keyboard.  (I can't minimize it.)  It's never been a mixture of the two...  So that can be a little bit new.  

(I mean mixing mice and keyboards.)

~Olego~

[Keltic Danor]

The only thing I don't get is what problems there are with draganddropping, since you can already either add songs to the playlist or clear it with new ones. Regardless of whether add to list is disabled.

Drop it on the playlist to add it, and drop in on xmplay to clear and add new. I think that works well. Must just be me I suppose.

Look at it like this...  Has anyone ever studied Computer Science and learned about streams, or lazy evaluators?  It is basically this: if you have a list of calculations, then you have this structure called a stream.  The first element is a number, and the rest are unevaluated expressions, usually infinite.  So if you need one more, then you just calculate one more, and keep the rest simple.  (I don't think you can create an infinite stream using an infinite loop, do you?  )

Alrighty so my brain might not of been in when I posted that reply before, its not my fault it leaves without telling me.