Author Topic: XMPlay Delix plugin  (Read 187058 times)

wertstahl

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #300 on: 29 Dec '14 - 14:57 »
Hej,

xmplay with delix is actually something i have been 'waiting' for a long time, since xmplay has the one and only single track export feature, that i really need before the end of my life ;-) but as of yet, even with the most recent versions, i won't manage to get oktalyzer songs played.
which is a pity, since i have alot of them... i neeeed those singletracks :-D

oddly enough, my winamp can play oktalyzer files, but then again it doesnt have a single-track-spllitting option.

i hope this was asked below 1000 times and i apologize in advance if i should have seen something that i just didnt. any help is *greatly* appreciated!

keep up the great work.
WS^G*P

Dotpitch

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #301 on: 29 Dec '14 - 15:50 »
...but as of yet, even with the most recent versions, i won't manage to get oktalyzer songs played.
Doesn't xmp-openmpt support Oktalyzer? You could give it a spin :).

bauxite69

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #302 on: 29 Dec '14 - 22:08 »
...but as of yet, even with the most recent versions, i won't manage to get oktalyzer songs played.
Doesn't xmp-openmpt support Oktalyzer? You could give it a spin :).

You could also try xmp-libxmp http://www.un4seen.com/forum/?topic=16164

wertstahl

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #303 on: 30 Dec '14 - 00:18 »
Thank you both, Dotpitch and bauxite69, for taking me a step closer!
Unfortunately, - maybe i totally misunderstood the mechanism - the "separate MOD instruments" option upon writing wav files somehow doesn't work. Somehow = not.
I know that Oktalyzer uses 'interlaced'/semi-mixed 8-voice generation and thus some distortion that comes with the distinctive sound of oktalyzer modules, as well as a drastic decrease of amplitude for the later versions of Oktalyzer to work around the 'interlace' trick, are real unique features of oktalyzer. I also have implemented the 4-channel replay routine on the amiga, back in the days - which is why i have pretty much exactly an idea of how oktalyzer works. It was one of the first trackers, which - as far as i am informed - was capable of 8 channel playback on the amiga. And because i came across it in like 1989, i continued using it until 1995, which means i have *alot* of tunes that i want to 'rework'. I have used some eagleplayer based amiga conversion tool before, but the results for switching to OctaMED were just not sufficient, since many of the sample control commands are not properly transferred.

I am just saying all the above to make clear, that i am not interested in more ... difficult .... solutions. I also attempted to make my own kind of implementation in java or c using given libraries - i was not aware that the dlls could be used as plugins in XMPLay - which is totally awesome.

So. How do we convince XMPLay's 'separate MOD instruments' wav-writing method to ... for example just mute each instrument after another to write split-single-tracks for each instrument used? Is there a way i can actually customly interfere with the given application and plugins? Please excuse my lazieness to research it myself, but before i really dig into stuff, i'd like to make sure that there aint nobody else who does it in the blink of an eye. And from my experience, there is someone out there who must only sneeze to have the solution ready before i even googeled how stuff interacts here.

Any help is *greatly* appreciated, and i bet i am not entirely alone with my legacy tracker formats which i want to run through my mastering machinery. Hassle-Free, ofcourse :-) (Oh and i am totally overwhelmed how alive this forum is! <3 !)

WS^G*P

wertstahl

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #304 on: 30 Dec '14 - 01:10 »
I just re-checked and found that openMPT is sound-wise far superior to libxmp - no offense intended.

Additionally, - i might risk losing any sympathy here, but - this is one of the gems (imho) that seriously needs a tweak and musnt remain unlistened any longer:
https://soundcloud.com/wertstahl/color-of-the-skyokt

best
WS^G*P

Dotpitch

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #305 on: 30 Dec '14 - 09:03 »
Unfortunately, - maybe i totally misunderstood the mechanism - the "separate MOD instruments" option upon writing wav files somehow doesn't work. Somehow = not.
I'm not sure the instrument separation works with plugins. If you go to the MOD Pattern Display, can you toggle the channels manually? There is no programmatic interface (or at least, not an easy one) to do this.

How is the playback through xmp-openmpt compared to Oktalyzer? If it's good enough, you could also use OpenMPT to rework your tracks.

saga

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #306 on: 30 Dec '14 - 14:08 »
Of course XMPlay's "separate MOD instruments" options doesn't work with plugins. However, OpenMPT has exactly the same option, so you can use OpenMPT directly to do this jobs, without having to go through the XMPlay plugin.
However, OpenMPT (nor xmp-openmpt) will emulate any kind of playback quirks like this distortion that you mentioned. If you need authentic reproduction of the original sound, you will have to use Oktalyzer.

wertstahl

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #307 on: 10 Jan '15 - 00:32 »
hej,
@all : thank you for your suggestions. i must admit, i only approach this topic with 10% of the attention it actually needed, so thats why it took like 15 years now to understand that i actually have to take some action to get ahead. thanks for pointing me in the right direction. if i come up with a solution, be sure i will post it here.

big thx
best
WS^G*P

TroudhuK

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #308 on: 31 Jan '15 - 11:27 »
Hi,

I report a bug with path containing special characters here. Could someone fix it?

frzan

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #309 on: 14 Sep '15 - 15:47 »
Hello, I have a question for Fraggie: would it be possible to add support for MaxTrax files? Thank you for the great work done so far, anyway.

Fraggie

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #310 on: 16 Sep '15 - 13:22 »
Unfortunately MaxTrax introduces a slight technical problem - it uses a part of the OS that is not emulated (audio.device). It's not rocket science to add, of course, but it still needs some time investment. So, it won't happen, I'm afraid. Not for this incarnation of Delix, at least.

frzan

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #311 on: 16 Sep '15 - 21:30 »
Oh, I see. Alright then, never mind...

osidovich

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #312 on: 29 Sep '15 - 10:06 »
XMPlay 3.8.1.17
Delix plugin 9.10

Unable to play TFMX format. Files are shown in playlist window but if I double click on them, a red strike line appears.
In Options and stuff window, Plugins/Input tree node, Delix is showed as Delix (rev. 9) but I don't see any item in supported filetypes textbox.

Suggestions? Thanks

Fraggie

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #313 on: 29 Sep '15 - 19:55 »
How are the files (and sample files) named?

osidovich

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #314 on: 12 Oct '15 - 12:12 »
How are the files (and sample files) named?

Using regexp syntax

*.mdat
*.smpl

Or, if archived:

*.mdat.zip
*.smpl.zip

Fraggie

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #315 on: 12 Oct '15 - 12:48 »
Try to rename the files so the extension is in front (mdat.xxx and smpl.xxx). And if zipped, the files need to be in the same archive.

xelo

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #316 on: 7 Dec '15 - 22:19 »
Hello
At first I would like to thank the developers of XMPlay and the Delix plugin.
And second... please excuse bad english, since it is not my motherly language :)

I used DeliPlayer a very long time, but after I found XMPlay yesterday I am really happy to be able to listen to all my very old modules using Delix and the so called "oldskool" plugin.

But today I experienced some problems with several MED modules. It seems that some of the included samples are not played properly so that a lot of very noisy and loud distortions are appearing during playing. The MED modules itself were played properly by deliplayer2, so I am wondering if the delix plugin is maybe buggy.

I uploaded 3 of those Med modules for debbugging reasons and I really hope to be helpful to fix this issue.

The filenames are as follows:
ftp://ftp.un4seen.com/incoming/MED.FarEast
ftp://ftp.un4seen.com/incoming/MED.hohoho!
ftp://ftp.un4seen.com/incoming/MED.Trance

Thank you
Kindly regards
xelo


Specs:
Win7 64Bit
Intel i7 4790
16 GB Ram
Mainboard: ASUS Z97-A with Onboard sound (Realtek HD Audio)

XMPlay v3.8.1.12
Delix rev .9

Corak

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #317 on: 7 Dec '15 - 23:54 »
XMPlay v3.8.1.12
Delix rev .9

I told about same problem in page before
Almost best result is to use v8c for MED format, because rev 9 is broken in samples (velocity/pitch).
Delix rev. 8с: http://www.un4seen.com/forum/?action=dlattach;topic=4500.0;attach=1869

And it's supported now only on 3.7 or earlier version of XMPlay, so here's XMPlay build especially for Delix v8c plugin:
XMPlay 3.7+Delix8c: http://files.leraux.ru/Corak/Soft/Players/XMplay/XMplay_delix.rar

Also alternatively I recommend you using original OctaMed in amiga (WinUAE) and convert them to .MODs, then listen them normally on XMPLay (Sounds much better then originals).
WinUAE+WorkBench3+Octamed: http://files.leraux.ru/Corak/Emulator/Amiga/utils/Octamed_WinUAE.7z
OctaMed only: http://files.leraux.ru/Corak/Emulator/Amiga/utils/OctamedSS1_03c_Soundstudio.7z

Conversion to .MOD is almost good, but resulting samples somewhat faster and pitch higher, and sometimes samples are broken and too fast in pitch, but much rarely then in rev. 9c.
And finally most 100% authentic - is to listen inside Octamed tracker, because MED format is made for it...
Do not use MED2XM - even it's original, it is broken too.
« Last Edit: 8 Dec '15 - 00:09 by Corak »

xelo

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #318 on: 8 Dec '15 - 20:28 »
Hello Corak,
thank you very much for your kind help.
Though I have already WinUAE installed since several years now, it seems exaggerated?(=overdressed?) for me to play these MODs in an emulator.

Instead I installed the older version of XMPlay in combination with Delix rev8c. This works satisfying for me. Thank you! :)
Unfortunatly my favorite skin is not compatible to this older version of XMPlay, but this is only a very small disadvantage I have to life with.

Thanks a lot!

Kindly regards,
xelo



bauxite69

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #319 on: 9 Dec '15 - 07:54 »
But today I experienced some problems with several MED modules. It seems that some of the included samples are not played properly so that a lot of very noisy and loud distortions are appearing during playing. The MED modules itself were played properly by deliplayer2, so I am wondering if the delix plugin is maybe buggy.

You can try xmp-libXMP plugin http://www.un4seen.com/forum/?topic=16164.0


bmos

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #320 on: 29 Jul '16 - 01:26 »
on my new rig (windows10) the first thing i did was download XMPlay 3.8.2 and Delix. No filetypes are shown in the supported filetype list.

Seems like a very typical setup. Nothing special and no other plugins install. Anyone know a workaround or fix? Attached an image.

saga

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #321 on: 29 Jul '16 - 13:40 »
Delix never reports a list of supported file types. Which is not problematic, because XMPlay does not care about file extensions (like every good application) and will try each plugin until it finds one that accepts the file anyway.

bmos

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #322 on: 29 Jul '16 - 16:05 »
ah okay. I'll try it with another format to be sure. thanks saga :) *edit* yeah. just not a supported format. doh!
« Last Edit: 29 Jul '16 - 16:19 by bmos »

Guest

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #323 on: 3 Nov '17 - 09:46 »
hi @fraggie, is there chances to get this tune to play with delix (or xmplay at all)?

http://janeway.exotica.org.uk/release.php?id=38288

thank you