Author Topic: What is MO3?  (Read 10654 times)

degarb

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What is MO3?
« on: 10 Jul '02 - 17:44 »
What is mO3.  Not one example or expectation on the site.   Looks at first glance to be an midi compressor or something.

Perhaps turn the wav to midi then to mp3?  

Common, design a site with what is it, why be interested and examples.

How much compression might I expect?  What portable players use this?  Winamp plugin?    How hard, do I need to be a prgrammer to encode? A typist?

Also, I cannot dl the xmplayer for there is only a JS link.  I have JS off, I found I get js viri that I must scan out of cache monthly normally from sites that insist on JS for downloads.

Ralesk

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Re: What is MO3?
« Reply #1 on: 10 Jul '02 - 18:43 »
Say, MIDI protocol files are *small* as they are :]

It's a MOD/S3M/XM/IT compressor.  It uses MP3 or OGG to compress the samples contained in the module file, so you can expect a compression ratio of normal WAV->MP3/OGG on the samples themselves, and the extra data of the pattern isn't very significant.

It *is* explained about this much in the site's MO3 section.

XMPlay and BASS.dll are able to play MO3 compressed modules.

degarb

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Re: What is MO3?
« Reply #2 on: 14 Jul '02 - 19:52 »
You just told me nothing.   I asked a simple question.  101 of any usermanual per point.   1. what is it? (defining words)  2.  Why would anyone be interested? 3. Examples.

You post was meaningless to me.  2 and 3 you left out. and 1. you didn't define anything.   Thus, I assume this whole site is a developer tool or god knows what.

Because 2 wasn't addressed, I am not going to even waste time researching 1.

The only reason I am posting now is to warn yall. That, keep up the vagueness and this format will go nowhere.

I attempted to mod encode but couldn't find any help there.  mo3 needs a mod file.  Wait, I haven't a clue what a mod file is anyway.  


Keltic Danor

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Re: What is MO3?
« Reply #3 on: 15 Jul '02 - 06:32 »
It sounds like you need a little further explanation than just what MO3 is:

What is a MOD(Module)?

Excerpt from digital magic:
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A mod is a music file format for which can be played by computers with a soundblaster or sound blaster compatible sound card. It contains several different samples, or instruments, as well as a set of binary instructions (sort of like a program written by the composer) that tell the computer when to play each one, and at what pitch. This allows someone to take many different sounds and compose a song out of them.


In simpler terms this mean a mod is made up of a number of sounds reffered to as "samples", and a list of instructions on when to play them. (referred to as a "pattern")

Each sample is either "RAW" or in today's MOD's "wave"'s. As a result the MOD can get very large as wav are about as big as you can get.

MO3, simply put is a tool for compressing the "pattern", and intead of waves compressing the "samples" as mp3 or ogg vorbis.

The uses of this in making a 30 Mb MOD file much smaller, its just in the same way as making an mp3 from a song on an audio cd, "to save space while retaining quality".

Here is an example of a MOD:
http://home.iprimus.com.au/seanhindley/Shiftless - Deeper Into The Sun.IT

And an example of the same MOD as a MO3:
http://home.iprimus.com.au/seanhindley/Shiftless - Deeper Into The Sun.mo3

Note: you may need to right-click and select "save as" to download the Mod's posted above.

And here is a link for XMPlay (no JS required):
http://home.iprimus.com.au/seanhindley/xmplay24.zip

MOD are created using "Trackers" for further information regarding "trackers" and "mods" check out:
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=4349

There isn't a mo3 plugin for winamp at current though it would be fairly simple for the current bass plugin to support it (I think)

No portable players support this format, in fact none support MOD either to my knowledge.

And the level of compression is entirely up to you, the same quality to size ratio that exists with mp3, ogg, and every other lossy compression format on the planet.
« Last Edit: 15 Jul '02 - 06:45 by KelticDanor »

Ralesk

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Re: What is MO3?
« Reply #4 on: 16 Jul '02 - 00:33 »
Lookit, sir.  I have explained it simple, and I do not wish to get insults back for my service.  I was obviously not detailful; however, I have covered the first point: It's a MOD/S3M/IT/XM compression that compresses the samples contained within the mentioned module formats, with yours truly's MP3 or OGG encoding software.  It is NOT a MIDI compressor.

 Why would anyone be interested, is in there, read between lines.  Smaller file, better distributable.

 3rdly.  Examples?  Of what kind?

{edit} No, I'm not pissed off... {/edit}
« Last Edit: 16 Jul '02 - 00:36 by Ralesk »

Mad

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Re: What is MO3?
« Reply #5 on: 28 Dec '02 - 13:26 »
just a note byside: there is a plugin for winamp. its called 'BASS modul player plugin'

greetz
Mad

D-503

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Re: What is MO3?
« Reply #6 on: 15 Mar '03 - 16:52 »
>What is mO3.  Not one example or expectation on the site.   Looks at first glance to be an >midi compressor or something.

A midi compressor it is not.. it is a tracker module compressor..  A mod is kind of like midi but uses samples such as .wav as well as instrument files such as .xi for FastTracker 2.

>Perhaps turn the wav to midi then to mp3?  
why? true midi files are small but then so are chiptune files.  

the whole purpose of M03 is to compress high quality 16 bit samples in mod files so thatthere is no need to use crappy 8 bit samples to save space.

>How much compression might I expect?  
Skaven's Codename_Silver.it file which uses high quality 16 bit samples is 3MB.   His
MO3 compressed version Codename_Silver.mo3 is only 300KB and contains 10 songs.

>What portable players use this?
None.. what portable players use OGG yet? its only a new format.. and its mainly aimed
at Trackers than the common Kazaa user who wants to download the latest Britney Spears song..

>Winamp plugin?  
nope..

>How hard, do I need to be a prgrammer to encode? A typist?
well firstly if you don't know what a mod is then you'll have no reason to encode it anyway but as a listener it will be of some benefit. secondly if you can encode an mp3
using LAME you can encode an M03.

>Also, I cannot dl the xmplayer for there is only a JS link.  I have JS off, I found I get js >viri that I must scan out of cache monthly normally from sites that insist on JS for >downloads.

http://www.un4seen.com/files/xmplay26.zip

Zarggg

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Re: What is MO3?
« Reply #7 on: 15 Mar '03 - 23:57 »
D, this question was asked (and answered) five months ago. :P