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[Tsorovan]

Nope, not at the minute, but feel free to make suggestions. Remember though that any changes should not bloat or slow things down.

Well, this is not really a skin feature, but what about adding an option to toggle to Main mode when hovering one's mouse over the Mini mode? Feasible? Enjoyable? This way I could hack myself a little better UI behaviour (hide controls for mini mode/add easily usable controls without increasing Mini mode size which would in turn cover important Windows UI elements).

I still want those fillable slider thingies I've been nagging about for years though! That could make some skin authors make skins that stand out a little bit from the crowd.
I've shown this before, but it's kind of my "dream" to one day be able to make something along these lines:


And again, for the umpteenth time, separation of font/colour settings of all playlist items. Crappy, tiny, old mockup here of what it could do (minus the periods, but such a feature could be nice as well, but I'd wager I'm alone in wanting something like that):

Much much easier to quickly find the info you're looking for, since you can "tune out" certain elements of different shades (like those, IMO, mostly useless playlist numbers).

I'm in the process of making a new miniskin for myself, since I'm now at a higher resolution and my old miniskinses (and these mockups) don't lend themselves well to 1600x1200 @ 19" (CRT), but all the limitations are pretty frustrating, to be honest.

[sequestrum]

Well, I for one think these suggestions are neat. Anyone else?

(It's gotten awfully quiet in the wish list department lately...)

[Brian]

I've long been keen on being able to tweak fonts from within the player options.

[Ian @ un4seen]

Well, this is not really a skin feature, but what about adding an option to toggle to Main mode when hovering one's mouse over the Mini mode? Feasible? Enjoyable? This way I could hack myself a little better UI behaviour (hide controls for mini mode/add easily usable controls without increasing Mini mode size which would in turn cover important Windows UI elements).

Do you mean there'd still be separate normal and mini modes, but in mini mode, it'd change back to normal when the mouse is over it? That could be interesting. I'll look into it (and the other stuff).

[Tsorovan]

Yep, that's exacfly what I mean. Thanks!

I've long been keen on being able to tweak fonts from within the player options.

Agreed! I've tried to champion for it. A skinconfig.txt override section (for font settings and possibly highlights or what-have-you) could be in the Options and Stuff dialog, now that it's expandable.

[piovrauz]

The 2 state minimode seems veeery interesting, I'm for it!

[Tsorovan]

Actually, how I pitched the option, it'd still be the same 1-state mini mode, and 1-state main/normal mode, but just hovering your mouse pointer over it would switch to normal/main from mini (instead of double-clicking or pressing M), and then switch back when you move the mouse pointer off of it. That's what Ian asked me to clarify.

I'd prefer a more general hover state of panels and controls, but it'd require an overhaul of the skinning system and that doesn't seem popular enough just yet

[piovrauz]

@Tsorovan

mmm, so if you have "mouse over" enabled, and main and minimode have same size you can get the result as in the 1st little skin you post?

[Tsorovan]

Sure, that's the plan. Well, not exactly as in that mockup, as it requires more changes, but the general idea, yeah.

[Ian @ un4seen]

Here's an update to try playing around with...

   www.un4seen.com/stuff/xmplay.exe

It supports a new skinconfig setting...

pos_automini = 1 ;switch from mini to normal layout when the mouse is hovering

To aid "playing around", it also has an "AutoMini" secret INI setting to enable that for all skins. Let me know how you get on with it.

[Dotpitch]

Awesome! Works pretty good with Miniskin 1 and Silk IMHO. But when you rightclick it (to change the skin, or to go to options'n'stuff), XMPlay switches back to minimode, hiding the first line of the menu most of the time. Still works if you click on it though .

I like the option, but the effect depends on the skin. Not every skin works well (but that's a matter of taste ofcourse ).
(For some reason XMPlay decided to ditch my complete configuration an roll it back to default when I put this new .exe in the dir it always works in. Not so funny.)

[Tsorovan]

That's sweeeeet! What Dotpitch said though, right-click no worky too well. No other issues that I've encountered...

[DanteGuest]

how about adding buttons (like On/Off) for mini playlist and equalizer?

[Maserati]

if there is one feature I could have for skinning it would be the ability to toggle the z-order of the playlist and output panels.

[raina]

Nice!

[amit]

the new pos_automini is a nice addition.
i think it will be better if you add a predefined or a configurable delay  for both :the hovering time until the mini mode makes the change to normal mode and the time until normal mode changes back to mini after moving the mouse from the normal skin.
this will help preventing accidental changes in skin modes.

[piovrauz]

Just tried pos_automini with Miniskin2, it's great!

(but I have this right click issue as well)

Thank you veeery much. (to Jan)

[Cris]

There seems to be a problem when editing xmplay.ini to add the secret options: when the file is saved, at the beginning of the file (right before [XMPLAY]) appear some strange chars, so when XMPlay is opened, it "thinks" that there are no options saved, and it restaures the default settings. When XMPlay is closed, it creates another [XMPLAY] section at the end of the file, almost doubling it's size.

I've uploaded the files "xmplay.ini" (the good one) and "xmplay (bad).ini" (which was modified with Notepad.exe; I added pos_automini, AutoMini and NoWheelVol)

[raina]

Why did you add pos_automini? It is a skinconfig.txt not an xmplay.ini setting.

[Cris]

Oops, my mistake. I noticed it didn't do anything, but I didn't realize why.