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[Fraggie]

I was thinkning about "Memphis" or "Whistler"... But "shoot^2" is okay, too, I guess...

[arfy]

ok, post, take 2. Hi, once again, nice work on the plugin, keep it up. I've actually completly deleted sidplay2w from my system! However, I've found a bug with the way it handles stereo sidplayer files, from the cgsc collection. The problem is that if you use pan seporation it courses the volumes of some of the voices to be reduced, in relation to how high the slider is. The higher the value, the more noticeable this problem is. It's been around since about rev 24 C, if I remember right. If you have the cgsc, you can here the effect by playing, for example, axel_f.mus, if not I can post or send the files.

thanks again,
arfyy

[Dhry]

v0.25a has a bug. In the "Fading" config section, it doesn't appear to remember the settings for "Enable fade-out". If you uncheck this, apply the settings, then quit out of XMPlay completely, when you come back in and look, that setting is switched on again.

Also, I have the entire 33,000 HVCS loaded in the library and just play songs (without fade) randomly from it while working. XMPlay crashes out completely after maybe four or five SID songs. It's pretty consistent and I'm not really sure why it's happening. Any way I can look at debug loggins or something to try and work out why?

Dhry

[Fraggie]

v0.25a has a bug. In the "Fading" config section, it doesn't appear to remember the settings for "Enable fade-out". If you uncheck this, apply the settings, then quit out of XMPlay completely, when you come back in and look, that setting is switched on again.

Oops...

Also, I have the entire 33,000 HVCS loaded in the library and just play songs (without fade) randomly from it while working. XMPlay crashes out completely after maybe four or five SID songs. It's pretty consistent and I'm not really sure why it's happening. Any way I can look at debug loggins or something to try and work out why?

Are you sure it's the SID plugin that's crashing? Please remove all other plugins and check if it still goes down.

[guest]

XMPlay exits without a warning during opening:
http://www.c64.org/HVSC/MUSICIANS/C/Cox_Chris/Empire_Of_Karn.sid

[Fraggie]

The plugin is being confused with "(#1)" in STIL comment. Fixed for next release.

[guest]

http://www.c64.org/HVSC/MUSICIANS/Z/Zyron/Bouncy_Balls_speech_PSID.sid
All subsongs are mute.

[Zarggg]

http://www.c64.org/HVSC/MUSICIANS/Z/Zyron/Bouncy_Balls_speech_PSID.sid
All subsongs are mute.

Confirmed. Each subsong is 0:02 and silent. General window output posted for debugging purposes, if necessary:

Title Johan Åstrand & Fredrik Ternell - Bouncy Balls (speech)
File Bouncy_Balls_speech_PSID.sid
Path C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop
Size 19986 bytes
Format PlaySID one-file format (PSID)
SID model MOS-8580
Clock speed VBI (PAL)
Addresses Load: $7000, Init: $bd00, Play: $bd03
MD5 c2b1b1672c5cfca6383700405dfbea61
Songs 17
Startsong 1
Lengths 1. 0:02
2. 0:02
3. 0:02
4. 0:02
5. 0:02
6. 0:02
7. 0:02
8. 0:02
9. 0:02
10. 0:02
11. 0:02
12. 0:02
13. 0:02
14. 0:02
15. 0:02
16. 0:02
17. 0:02
Length 0:02
Output 44100 hz - 16 bit - stereo

[Fraggie]

Also Bouncy_Balls_PSID.sid doesn't play correctly. I have no stinking idea why the sampled sounds can't be heard...

Edit: Samples play if the 6581 SID chip is forced, so I guess 8580 emulation is broken.

[Fraggie]

Revision 25b has been released.

Here are the changes since v25a:
 - digiboost hack emulation for 8580 chip (fixes "Bouncy Balls" samples)
 - STIL parsing improved (fixes "Empire Of Karn")
 - fade out enable option fixed
 - disabled stereo separation setting for Sidplayer files
 - off-key playing of NTSC tunes fixed
 - automatic external filter passband frequency calculation fixed

[Knurek]

Any chance of adding (optional maybe) SID chip distortion (http://bel.fi/~alankila/c64-sw/)

[Fraggie]

It's nice that someone digs in this, however it seems to me too experimental for now.

[Knurek]

It's nice that someone digs in this, however it seems to me too experimental for now.

Well, it renders Mitch & Dane's Gloria much closer to real hardware then vanilla sidplay2. But yeah, I can understand your point - I understand that the patch breaks 8580 emulation?

[Fraggie]

When it works flawlessly for both 6581 and 8580 we will start thinking.

[Jace]

Anyone else experiencing silent (no error messages) crashes when a sid tune has finished?
Happened to me twice this far, first I was looping Commando, now it was changing between songs and died at the end of one..

Nothing (afaik) in watsonlogs, cleared it and setting sids to play for a while now, seeing if something shows up there. =)

SLDB, STIL etc in use, rest of the sid settings described below.

_{[SID]
HVSC=
Docs=
PathsHvscFolder=M:\Sids
PathsDocsFolder=M:\Sids\documents
EmuSidEnvironment=3
EmuSidModel=0
EmuSidClock=0
EmuOptimizeEnable=1
EmuSeekingEnable=1
FiltersSidFiltersEnable=1
FiltersExternalFilterEnable=0
FiltersExternalFilterPassband=0
OutputSampleRate=4
OutputChannels=1
SamplingOversampling=0
SamplingMethod=0
SamplingPassband=0
SamplingFilterScale=970
SonglenLoadDb=1
SonglenDefaultDuration=300
SonglenAddFadeOut=0
SonglenRepeatCount=0
SonglenRepeatTimeMin=20
SonglenRepeatTimeMax=60
SonglenRepeatOnlyLooped=1
MixerPanning=60
MixerSurroundEnable=1
MixerVoiceOneVolume=100
MixerVoiceTwoVolume=100
MixerVoiceThreeVolume=100
FadeInEnable=0
FadeOutEnable=0
FadeOutTime=500
FadeOutJingleTime=10
StilLoadDb=1
StilProcessOutsideHvsc=1
StilShowComposer=1
StilShowFile=1
StilShowSong=1
StilShowBugList=1
StilShowTop100=1
LoaderSkipJingles=1
LoaderJingleTime=10
LoaderFilterPeriod=0
LoaderPeriodMin=0
LoaderPeriodMax=0
MiscShowFingerprint=0
MiscShowAddresses=0}

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Okay, it's happened twice more now.. After about 35-40 minutes of playing only SIDs, it dies without errors or anything, nothing gets logged in Watson.
100% reproducable on my system, hope it applies for other systems too.

[Fraggie]

Erm... Let's hope not.

[Jace]

If it does, it should be (more) easily fixable.

[guest]

Is it possible to use only XMPlay's global track looping settings with proper loop start position? Plugin's loop and fading out settings could be optionally switched off.

[Fraggie]

That would be the best solution, but the SLDB doesn't provide loop point time. (And even if it did, both song length and loop point times would have to be way more accurate than it is now.)

[guest]

http://www.c64.org/HVSC/MUSICIANS/M/Maktone/Golden_Years.sid
has distorsions e.g. from 0:13 when SID filters are enabled.