Author Topic: XMPlay Delix plugin  (Read 187109 times)

Nukkels

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #150 on: 17 May '07 - 12:18 »
Obviously not your area of expertise Fraggie, but do you know how modplug and winamp handle synthetic samples? Both of those programs play it fine, and I would guess they both have built-in detection. So like you said, I think the solution is to fix XMPlay, not the Delix Plugin (which is working pretty good now).

Knurek

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #151 on: 17 May '07 - 12:35 »
Obviously not your area of expertise Fraggie, but do you know how modplug and winamp handle synthetic samples? Both of those programs play it fine, and I would guess they both have built-in detection. So like you said, I think the solution is to fix XMPlay, not the Delix Plugin (which is working pretty good now).

They don't AFAIK. So any of the files Fraggie linked to will play bad there (missing instruments, the like).

Fraggie

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #152 on: 17 May '07 - 13:50 »
Obviously not your area of expertise Fraggie, but do you know how modplug and winamp handle synthetic samples? Both of those programs play it fine, and I would guess they both have built-in detection. So like you said, I think the solution is to fix XMPlay, not the Delix Plugin (which is working pretty good now).
Your file is a plain ol' StarTrekker module, more or less compatible with ProTracker (accidently fitting into StarTrekker-AM/FM  pattern). That's why Modplug and WinAmp play it fine. So did XMPlay when the synthetic sample detection wasn't there. But hey, now you can enjoy modules I mentioned in my previous post! ;)

Nukkels

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #153 on: 17 May '07 - 23:09 »
Nope, XMPlay never played it, that's why I came searching for this plugin...

When I opened the file in ModPlug Tracker, I could see that some of the samples weren't "normal". They have no length and can't be saved (so I assumed they were synthetic samples).

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Fraggie

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #154 on: 19 May '07 - 07:31 »
I've just checked this module with XMPlay 3.3. And guess what... It plays perfectly. :P

But on the second thing you're right. The samples you mention may indicate that this module is StarTrekker-AM/FM (they confuse XMPlay and the AudioSculpture eagleplayer). However they are not used in the patterns! So they don't matter actually...

The other issue is that this module probably should have the accompanying .nt or .as file. (Maybe it was lost through all these years...). If it had, it would be playable by XMPlay/Delix. So from the other point of view, one may say that this module is corrupt and both XMPlay/Delix and DeliPlayer are correct not to accept the file...

Nukkels

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #155 on: 19 May '07 - 12:36 »
As I thought, the problem is in XMPlay, not your plugin. I thought that would have to be what's going on, since other players have no problems with it.

The samples certainly are used in the patterns (at least according to MPT...), both the AM/FM samples and the regular ones.

I agree that if it uses synthesised samples, it should have the other .nt or .as file in the archive with it, but after trying to download it from 5 different sites, none have the additional files =(   So yeah, I'd say that 'corrupt' is the right way to describe a file with missing information...

How other players and even previous versions of XMPlay managed is still a mystery to me. Maybe something Ian will look into before he releases 3.5 - it seems that a lot of things 'broke' during the transition from 3.3. to 3.4

Fraggie

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #156 on: 26 May '07 - 06:54 »
Delix test 8c (0.0.8.2) is up...

Changes to previous release:
 - AudioSculpture/Startrekker eagleplayer replaced (new player by the Delix Team :) )

This new AudioSculpture/Startrekker eagleplayer is 100% compatible with DeliTracker, so you can now use archives, add to list while playing, etc...

Note that you need XMPlay 3.4.1.8 to play regular Startrekker modules (Delix will activate only when an .as or .nt file is present - to handle AM/FM synthesis and macros).
« Last Edit: 26 May '07 - 08:53 by Fraggie »

deus-ex

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #157 on: 27 May '07 - 19:19 »
May I bØmp this thread? ;D

Xmp-Delix v0.8c (deus-ex edition =).rar (includes AProSys player)

Schlicky

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #158 on: 5 Jun '07 - 11:20 »
Hi peeps, hoping you can help me.  I have XMPlay 3.4.1 and Delix Test Version 8c, but I can't seem to play anything from the Exotica Archive.

For example, when I download a Ben Daglish file I get 'BD.Deflektor'.  Even If I rename it to Deflektor.BD, XMPlay won't read it.  It also does list any Delix file types when I try to load a file.

I can see the plugin list in the XMPlay Options and Stuff, and I have the Highly Experimental and SID plugin working.  Am I just being daft ?

Much appreciated

Schlickty

Fraggie

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #159 on: 5 Jun '07 - 13:55 »
You need the ZIP plugin installed (and obviously LHA plugin if you play directly from archives). You don't need to rename anything.

Schlicky

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #160 on: 5 Jun '07 - 15:38 »
Works a treat - much appreciated Fraggie  ;)

deus-ex

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #161 on: 5 Jun '07 - 17:28 »
Am I just being daft ?

That, or you're to lazy to RTFM (Read The Fabulous Manual). ;D

Schlicky

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #162 on: 6 Jun '07 - 11:20 »
Call me BigDave 'Lazy' Schlicky  ;D

hmi_visu

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #163 on: 25 Jun '07 - 12:12 »
Hello!
Great tool....
is it possible to interface this dll to another programming language to use in demos/intros?
Thank yu very much....

Zarggg

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #164 on: 25 Jun '07 - 19:20 »
If I'm reading you correctly, you're actually looking for some kind of Delix/BASS combination.

Keltic Danor

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #165 on: 30 Jun '07 - 08:28 »
Is there by any chance a deliplayer/eagleplayer to allow support for Digital Illusions packed mods? or am I looking at xmp-modpacker material instead. ;D

Fraggie

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #166 on: 30 Jun '07 - 19:18 »
I think you'll have to wait for modpacker update. ;D

Knurek

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #167 on: 2 Jul '07 - 16:38 »
BTW, there's a new Don Adam's player (TFMX ST). Seems to work fine with Delix with what I've tested.

Fraggie

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #168 on: 3 Jul '07 - 12:39 »
And what did you expect?... :)

Knurek

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #169 on: 3 Jul '07 - 17:04 »
And what did you expect?... :)

Hard disc format of course.
I think that easter egg function you've implemented (you know, ERASE_HARDDISC_ON_TFMX_ST_LOAD) didn't work out as planned.

Fraggie

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #170 on: 3 Jul '07 - 17:52 »
Works only on Friday 27th.

Keltic Danor

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #171 on: 5 Jul '07 - 09:43 »
How about support for MaxTrax instead?

Pretty sure its not a packed format this time around. ;D

Fraggie

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #172 on: 5 Jul '07 - 11:50 »
Audio.device support is scheduled for Delix/NG.

Warpstar

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #173 on: 26 Sep '07 - 11:12 »
All right, I just started using this plugin, and I'm feeling pretty dumb right now. With files containing multiple songs, how do I switch to a different subsong?

Jace

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Re: XMPlay Delix plugin
« Reply #174 on: 26 Sep '07 - 11:40 »
Right-click on Prev/Next buttons.