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[winner]

- Ability to mute midi channels, or even change instrument!

Here's an update with a "MIDI mixer" option (via the config window or a shortcut)...

   www.un4seen.com/stuff/xmp-midi.dll

It doesn't include the ability to change instruments, but you can see what the current instruments are by hovering over the channel number. Note the responsiveness of the controls will be dependent on the buffer length in the "Output" options, and will also be delayed by the "Crossfade" setting (so that should probably be disabled).

Cool! The mixer is a nice feature!

[Ian @ un4seen]

Hi! Sorry for the long delay in my response, this new version doesn't fixes my problem, I've uploaded my INI file to the FTP it's called "xmplay_FB.ini", let me know if you require me to provide any other information, thanks in advance!

Ah, I see what's happening now. Here's an update to try...

   www.un4seen.com/stuff/xmp-midi.dll

[FB]

Yes, this version fixes the problem, but out of curiosity, what was causing it?

[Ian @ un4seen]

The problem you had was due to the plugin not taking into consideration that some of the soundfont entries may not be present in the soundfont list (because they don't apply to the selected bank).

[moyasi]

質問です。
GSのMAP指定(55,88,88P,etc)事に、SF2を設定出きるようになりませんか？

[Dotpitch]

質問です。
GSのMAP指定(55,88,88P,etc)事に、SF2を設定出きるようになりませんか?

It is question. The MAP appointment of GS (55,88,88P and etc) it doesn't reach the point where SF2 can be set especially?

Do you want a soundfont of a Roland GS device? Search on sf2midi.com. If you want to load a soundfont on a Roland GS device, you should ask that somewhere else, as this forum is especially for XMPlay.

ロランドGS装置のsoundfontがほしいと思うか。 sf2midi.com の調査。 ロランドGS装置でsoundfontに荷を積みたいと思えばこのフォーラムがXMPlayのため特にであるのでそれをどこかに頼むべきである。

[Rich Nagel]

Search on sf2midi.com.

Sorry, sort of OT for this thread, but has ANYONE ever been able to actually sign up at sf2midi.com ? I remember trying to quite some time ago (maybe more than a year ago), and just now tried again.

The new user signup confirmation email never comes through... checked my email spam settings, and nothing is being blocked.

[winner]

Search on sf2midi.com.

Sorry, sort of OT for this thread, but has ANYONE ever been able to actually sign up at sf2midi.com ? I remember trying to quite some time ago (maybe more than a year ago), and just now tried again.

The new user signup confirmation email never comes through... checked my email spam settings, and nothing is being blocked.

No, I've not been able to sign in there for quite a long time. I tried bugmenot.com credentials as well, but no success. I think the site is broke.

[moyasi]

Dotpitchさんへ
日本語の書きこみにもかかわらず、
返信していただき有難うございます。

さて、日本語とか、私の言葉足らずとかで、
上手く通じてないようなのでもっと詳しく。

まず、私はsoundfontが欲しいわけではないです。

GSのmidiでは、MAPを指定できるのです。
1つのmidiで、同じBANKの55MAPと88MAPの音を
同時に別々の音として、出すことができるのです。

ですから、同じBANKでもMAPが違うと、音が違うのです。

例
Instrument    MAP  bank prog
Dist.Gt.         55    000  030
DistortionGt    88   000  030
とか

Piano 1d        55    016  000
European Pf   88P   016  000
とか、他にも色々あります。

そんなわけで、もし宜しければ、
対応してもらえないかなと思ったわけです。
作者様、いかがでしょう？

[Dotpitch]

まず、私はsoundfontが欲しいわけではないです。
First, as for me is not the case that we want soundfont, is.

OK.

GSのmidiでは、MAPを指定できるのです。1つのmidiで、同じBANKの55MAPと88MAPの音を 同時に別々の音として、出すことができるのです。
ですから、同じBANKでもMAPが違うと、音が違うのです。
With midi of GS, it is to be able to appoint MAP. With one midi, the sound of 55MAP and 88MAP of the same BANK simultaneously it is to be possible to put out as a separate sound.
Because is, when MAP is different even in the same BANK, it means that sound is different.

Do you want to play two soundfonts simultaneously? Or did I understand it wrong?

2つのsoundfontsを同時にしたいと思うか。 または私は間違ったそれを理解したか。(悪い機械翻訳のための謝罪。)

[oddiophile]

Let's see what we have here...

(sorry about the romanized transliteration, but I can't manage to copy-paste Japanese text without being converted to question marks by the forum)

Shitsumon desu.
GS no MAP shitei (55,88,88P,etc) koto ni, SF2 o settei dekiru you ni narimasen ka?

Translation:  I have a question for you.  Is it possible to set (assign) a GS MAP (e.g. 55, 88, 88P, etc.) to a soundfont?

Mazu, watashi wa soundfont ga hoshii wake dewa nai desu.

Translation:  No,no. I don't want / need any soundfonts.

Onaji BANK demo MAP ga chigau to, oto ga chigau n desu.

Rei:

Instrument    MAP  bank prog
Dist.Gt.         55    000  030
DistortionGt    88   000  030
toka

Piano 1d        55    016  000
European Pf   88P   016  000

Translation:  Same bank (and same program), but different MAP - the sound is different.

For example:

Instrument    MAP  bank prog
Dist.Gt.         55    000  030
DistortionGt    88   000  030

also:

Piano 1d        55    016  000
European Pf   88P   016  000

What he really needs is VARIATION banks (CC #32 / bank select LSB support).
It's a feature that's heavily used in General MIDI Level 2, Roland GS and Yamaha XG MIDI standards:

"The most notable addition of the Roland GS standard was the ability to address multiple banks of programs (instrument sounds) by using an additional pair of Bank Select controllers to specify up to 16384 'variation' sounds (cc#0 is Bank Select MSB, and cc#32 is Bank Select LSB)."

"Accessing the massive sound library of the SC-88 Pro is possible with Bank Select commands (via MIDI), plus you can also select sounds from the front panel. The pair of buttons labelled 'Instrument' select a Part's main sound, while pressing both together takes you into a variation mode, where the banks of variation sounds can be accessed using the same buttons. It's just as well that the extra banks are easily accessible, since some basic sounds are provided with as many as 31 variations. Of course, the SC-88 Pro is fully compatible with all GM and GS (Roland's extended GM protocol) song files, and complete compatibility is provided for files written for the SC-88, SC-55 and SC-55 MkII, and the old CM-64."

[moyasi]

Dotpitchさんへ、
そうです。同じBANKに別々の音が出るということです。

Dotpitchさんへ、xmplay製作者さんへ
テスト用MIDI↓
ttp://www1.axfc.net/uploader/File/so/50545

上のMIDIを聞いて貰えればわかると思いますが、
本来、ニ種類の音が出なければいけないのですが、xmplayは一種類しか出ません。
それはMapID事に、soundfont設定する機能が存在しないからです。
だから作者様に、対応してもらえないかと思って書き込みをさせてもらいました。

ちなみに、MapIDは gm, gm2，gs(sc55，sc88，sc88pro，sc8850)，xg，xgsfx64
あとドラムもそれぞれ違います。それと、MapIDまだ他にもあったはずです。

[moyasi]

oddiophileさんへ
返信していただき有難うございます。

>88P - the 'P' here probably stands for percussion (Variation bank 88 for drums/percussion)

｢88P｣は、｢sc88pro｣のことです。紛らわしくて申し訳ないです。

[Lacho]

- Ability to mute midi channels, or even change instrument!

Here's an update with a "MIDI mixer" option (via the config window or a shortcut)...

   www.un4seen.com/stuff/xmp-midi.dll

It doesn't include the ability to change instruments, but you can see what the current instruments are by hovering over the channel number. Note the responsiveness of the controls will be dependent on the buffer length in the "Output" options, and will also be delayed by the "Crossfade" setting (so that should probably be disabled).

Hello thank you for adding this feature! I hope you can keep adding more things, thanks again. 


3 more things I'm thinking right now...

- Do you foresee in the future the lyrics improvement? (change colors, etc) 

- I don't know if anyone else here uses XMPlay for karaoke, but I feel like the lyrics start a bit earlier, or maybe it's my imagination? Or is there a way to delay the music?

- Where is the donate button?


 

[oddiophile]

Please see my previous post (I've corrected and updated some stuff).

And here it is - the famous Roland SC-88 Pro GS MIDI module (released 1997)



Main Features:
-----------------
32 MIDI channels
64 voice polyphony
1117 Preset sounds
42 Drum kits (including 3 sound effect kits)
256 User sounds
2 User drum kits
128 Preset Patches (with effect)
16 User Patches

64 User effects:
- Reverb (8 types)
- Chorus (8 types)
- Delay (10 types)
- 2 band Equalizer

Insertion Effects (64 types)

[oddiophile]

Dotpitch-san e, xmplay sakuseisha-san e:
Test-you MIDI \|/
ttp://www1.axfc.net/uploader/File/so/50545

Translation:    To Ian (the XMPlay creator) and Dotpitch:
Here's a test MIDI file:
http://www1.axfc.net/uploader/File/so/50545

(Link fixed )

[Ian @ un4seen]

How about *.sf2pack (soundfonts packed with BASS_MIDI_FontPack)?
Do you plan to support *.sf2pack in xmp-midi too?

That isn't currently possible. The problem is that the MIDI plugin doesn't include FLAC/etc decoders, and the FLAC/etc plugins don't include the necessary functionality to allow the MIDI plugin to use them. It may be possible to add that functionality though. I'll look into it.

This has now been added. Here's an update, with a FLAC plugin update too (for FLAC sample decoding)...

   www.un4seen.com/stuff/xmp-midi.dll
   www.un4seen.com/stuff/xmp-flac.dll

Please report any problems.

- Do you foresee in the future the lyrics improvement? (change colors, etc) 

No immediate plans, but who knows in future

Note the colours are currently derived from the skin, so if you would like to change those, you could take the sources of a skin that you like (from the support site) and modify the SKINCONFIG.TXT file (the color_infoback/color_info/color_infotext entries) as you want.

- I don't know if anyone else here uses XMPlay for karaoke, but I feel like the lyrics start a bit earlier, or maybe it's my imagination? Or is there a way to delay the music?

The lyrics display should be in sync with the lyric events in the MIDI file. If you're finding that they don't sound in sync, is that with every file or only some? It's possible that the lyric events themselves may not be in sync with the sound.

Dotpitch-san e, xmplay sakuseisha-san e:
Test-you MIDI \|/
ttp://www1.axfc.net/uploader/File/so/50545

Translation:    To Ian (the XMPlay creator) and Dotpitch:
Here's a test MIDI file:
http://www1.axfc.net/uploader/File/so/50545

It looks like the request is to add support for the bank select LSB controller (32), which would give a total of 16384 (128x128) banks available. The problem is SF2 soundfonts don't support more than 128 banks. It may be technically possible to make the plugin allow a soundfont to be assigned to one of 16384 banks, but that would be a hell of a lot of entries in the bank list!

[winner]

This has now been added. Here's an update, with a FLAC plugin update too (for FLAC sample decoding)...

   www.un4seen.com/stuff/xmp-midi.dll
   www.un4seen.com/stuff/xmp-flac.dll

Please report any problems.

Awesome! So... SynthFont, for instance, supports sfArk files as well. Would it be possible for XMPlay to support this compressed soundfont format?

[winner]

Please see my previous post (I've corrected and updated some stuff).

And here it is - the famous Roland SC-88 Pro GS MIDI module



Main Features:
-----------------

1117 Preset sounds
256 User sounds
42 Drum sound sets (including 3 sound effects sets)
2 User drum sound sets
128 Preset Patches (with Effect)
16 User Patches

64 User effects
Reverb (8 types)
Chorus (8 types)
Delay (10 types)
2 band Equalizer
Insertion Effect (64 types)

Oddiophile, how about a link to where someone can get this?

[oddiophile]

Another nice effect is low pass filter cutoff and filter resonance (some XG MIDIs I made are notorious for their filtered lead saws and sines..... . Lots of other XG MIDIs use these filters, as well as portamento)...

@mudlord: Do you have any example MIDI files that make heavy use of those filtering effects ?

EDIT: Nevermind, I dug up an old archive of awesome XG MIDI demos that use these effects a lot