Topic: Suggestions for 3.5

[Dotpitch]

Yep, that just made it in time for 3.5.

Nice to see 3.5 released . 2.5 years of steady development surely justifies a version number increase.

Along those lines, in the update above, the "phrase/any/all" options have been replaced by a more flexible inline "+/-" system. ...

I'm not sure whether I like the search defaulting to "any" rather than "all", it is different from search engines on the Internet. It is more intuitive, so I'll have to get used to it .

[saga]

Yay! Congratulations, job well done.

[FB]

Is cool to see a new version! Great work Ian.

[Ian @ un4seen]

I'm not sure whether I like the search defaulting to "any" rather than "all", it is different from search engines on the Internet. It is more intuitive, so I'll have to get used to it .

In hindsight, it probably would have been better to match "all" words by default, as that is probably what most people will want most of the time. "+/-" just had a nice symmetry to it

I guess it could be changed in the next update, but what prefix to use for "any"? Maybe "?", eg. the "+a -b c d" example would become "a -b ?c ?d". I'm not sure.

[Dotpitch]

I guess it could be changed in the next update, but what prefix to use for "any"? Maybe "?", eg. the "+a -b c d" example would become "a -b ?c ?d". I'm not sure.

"?" is already used for conditional formatting in the title string, but I don't really see an alternative. The "|" is usually not a prefix, and is easliy confused with an "l" or "I". (term1,term2,term3) is just too much work, and requires you to close the set.

[Jimmy Neutron]

I guess it could be changed in the next update, but what prefix to use for "any"? Maybe "?", eg. the "+a -b c d" example would become "a -b ?c ?d". I'm not sure.

How about the tilde?

The ~ seems to convey what you're trying to say.

[Ian @ un4seen]

I'm not sure about that. The "any" processing is an "or" operation, ie. the end result is true if the result for any of the words is true. '|' would be an ideal candidate (referring to the C/C++ operator and also supported by Google), but as Dotpitch mentions, that looks a lot like a few other characters. Perhaps there is another single character used for "or" in other programming/scripting languages?

Another idea would be to take it a step further, and allow the "any" processing to be grouped. For example, "a|b c|d" would mean that "a" or "b" needs to be present, and "c" or "d" needs to be present (assuming '|' is the any/or operator).

[amit]

I guess it could be changed in the next update, but what prefix to use for "any"? Maybe "?", eg. the "+a -b c d" example would become "a -b ?c ?d". I'm not sure.

Instead of prefix for "any" you could decide on a symbol to say "or". For example if that symbol is "|" then "x|b|c -e" means all tracks with a or b c excluding tracks with e.  

Edit: Ian , You beat me by a few seconds with the same proposal

[alexanderino]

Hello,

with 3.5, I notice that the Frames display has been removed. In 3.4, it used to cycle between time elapsed, time remaining and frames.

A search revealed this: http://www.un4seen.com/forum/?topic=8404.msg57725;hl=frames#msg57725

I would really appreciate a menu option [or even a hidden .ini option] to turn this back on. It's one of the many eccentricities that has won my heart over.

Regards,

Jason

[bornyank1]

Does dragging a track into the queue window make it start playing immediately instead of adding it to the queue? Seems to be working that way for me.

[Dotpitch]

Does dragging a track into the queue window make it start playing immediately instead of adding it to the queue? Seems to be working that way for me.

I think that depends on the setting you have for Options and stuff > Integration > Play listed tracks. Does that help?

[Ian @ un4seen]

Another idea would be to take it a step further, and allow the "any" processing to be grouped. For example, "a|b c|d" would mean that "a" or "b" needs to be present, and "c" or "d" needs to be present (assuming '|' is the any/or operator).

Here's an update to try...

   www.un4seen.com/stuff/xmplay.exe

The default is now to require the words to be present, and '/' has been added as an "any/or" operator. For example, "a b/c" means that "a" needs to be present, and "b" or "c" needs to be present. It can also be combined with the "not" operator ('-'); for example, "a b/-c" means that "a" needs to be present, and "b" needs to be present or "c" needs to be not present.

Please report any problems/etc...

[bornyank1]

Does dragging a track into the queue window make it start playing immediately instead of adding it to the queue? Seems to be working that way for me.

I think that depends on the setting you have for Options and stuff > Integration > Play listed tracks. Does that help?

Yep, setting it to "if not playing" fixed my problem. Thanks.

[Zarggg]

I would really appreciate a menu option (or even a hidden .ini option) to turn [the frame counter] back on. It's one of the many eccentricities that has won my heart over.

I second this.

[Ian @ un4seen]

Here's an update to try...

   www.un4seen.com/stuff/xmplay.exe

The default is now to require the words to be present, and '/' has been added as an "any/or" operator. For example, "a b/c" means that "a" needs to be present, and "b" or "c" needs to be present. It can also be combined with the "not" operator ('-'); for example, "a b/-c" means that "a" needs to be present, and "b" needs to be present or "c" needs to be not present.

Please report any problems/etc...

I think it's probably time for a 3.5.1 release, but first, does anyone have any thoughts on the search option changes above, eg. is it working well and/or could it be improved?

[saga]

Ian, as I said before, it would be nice to have a checkbox there to disable handling multiple words as mutiple search terms, because I actually always prepend a "quote" character to my searches so that searching for mutiple words actually works the way it worked before.

[Markus Foti]

I am quite happy with the search as it is, since you’re asking.  Type the main words in the title of a song and you’re there. So 1 vote for keeping it the way it is.

[Ian @ un4seen]

Ian, as I said before, it would be nice to have a checkbox there to disable handling multiple words as mutiple search terms, because I actually always prepend a "quote" character to my searches so that searching for mutiple words actually works the way it worked before.

A problem with the old system (the phrase/any/all selector) was that it couldn't be changed in "quick find" mode, so that was stuck with whatever the current setting was. That's one reason why it was changed, so that those options are available via the search text instead. But here's an update with a "Single phrase" option, which will disable the new search text processing and treat it as a single phrase...

   www.un4seen.com/stuff/xmplay.exe

[saga]

thanks!

[saga]

Ian, it's a bit strange that the status of this checkbox won't be saved when using "apply", though... at least not between two xmplay sessions.

[Ian @ un4seen]

Oops! That'll be sorted for the next update.

[amit]

Ian , has the quick find defaulted to single phrase behavior? When typing multiple words as a criteria the quick find doesn't find the correct tracks but in the find window the search is correct.

Maybe it is part of the problem Saga described.

[Ian @ un4seen]

No, "quick find" should only use the "Single phrase" behaviour if that is currently enabled. I don't think the checkbox problem that Saga reported would cause it to be stuck in "Single phrase" mode, but here's an update to try, with the checkbox fixed...

   www.un4seen.com/stuff/xmplay.exe

Let me know if you still have the problem with it.

[amit]

Thanks. It is fixed now.

[DmitryK1]

I use shortcuts to perform a sequence of consecutive operations.
For example:
   go to the current song,
   delete,
   move to a new,
   play
 - by alt + ctrl + shift + del.

It would be very convenient to manually sort the shortcuts for tasks such sequences.

Can you add this functional in the new version?