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[amit]

Is it possible to add a sorting option according to track number?

[Pike84]

This is already possible in the library view. Also, depending on the case, you may get similar results with sorting by filename.

Adding this to basic list sorting options wouldn't hurt, though .

[Ian @ un4seen]

Tag-based playlist sorting hasn't been added up to now as there is a pretty major issue. But so long as you're aware of the issue, I guess it'll be fine, so here's an update to try, with a "Sort by tag" menu option...

   www.un4seen.com/stuff/xmplay.exe

The issue is that it obviously requires the tag info to be available, but that info isn't stored in the XMPLAY.PLS playlist file. That means the tracks need to have been added to the list in the current session (so that the tags were freshly scanned) or they must be in the library. Any tracks that don't have the chosen tag available will just be placed at the end of the list.

[Dotpitch]

Tag-based playlist sorting hasn't been added up to now as there is a pretty major issue. But so long as you're aware of the issue, I guess it'll be fine, so here's an update to try, with a "Sort by tag" menu option...
The issue is that it obviously requires the tag info to be available, but that info isn't stored in the XMPLAY.PLS playlist file. That means the tracks need to have been added to the list in the current session (so that the tags were freshly scanned) or they must be in the library. Any tracks that don't have the chosen tag available will just be placed at the end of the list.

Nice . I think everyone will understand that XMPlay won't be able to sort the files without tags. Will this option get a shortcut for different sort options as well?

[amit]

Tag-based playlist sorting hasn't been added up to now as there is a pretty major issue. But so long as you're aware of the issue, I guess it'll be fine, so here's an update to try, with a "Sort by tag" menu option...

   www.un4seen.com/stuff/xmplay.exe

The issue is that it obviously requires the tag info to be available, but that info isn't stored in the XMPLAY.PLS playlist file. That means the tracks need to have been added to the list in the current session (so that the tags were freshly scanned) or they must be in the library. Any tracks that don't have the chosen tag available will just be placed at the end of the list.

Thanks Ian.

Two thoughts about this issue:
1. Would it be too long to scan the playlist for tags (if missing) when starting xmplay?
2. Wouldn't current playlist tags best be stored in the library anyway? Even if only as temporary additions (according to user decision) in order to avoid repetitive rescanning  and to allow more flexibility .

[Tsorovan]

I'd like album headers in the playlist. Too lazy to make a graphical mockup, so here's a textual one.

----------------------------------------------
Artist 1 - Album (Year)      tr: 9 time: 47:03
----------------------------------------------
001 01 - title                  MP3       0:00
002 02 - title                  MP3       0:00
003 03 - title                  MP3       0:00
004 04 - title                  MP3       0:00
005 05 - title                  MP3       0:00
006 06 - title                  MP3       0:00
007 07 - title                  MP3       0:00
008 08 - title                  MP3       0:00
009 09 - title                  MP3       0:00
----------------------------------------------
Artist 2 - Album (Year)      tr: 6 time: 47:03
----------------------------------------------
010 01 - title                  MP3       0:00
011 02 - title                  MP3       0:00
012 03 - title                  MP3       0:00
013 04 - title                  MP3       0:00
014 05 - title                  MP3       0:00
015 06 - title                  MP3       0:00
----------------------------------------------
Artist 3 - Album (Year)      tr: 4 time: 47:03
----------------------------------------------
016 01 - title                  MP3       0:00
017 02 - title                  MP3       0:00
018 03 - title                  MP3       0:00
019 04 - title                  MP3       0:00

Later on, there could be support for collapsing the albums, maybe have some nice contextual right-click commands (remove, randomise tracks) plus being able to move the whole album chunk via drag & drop in the list. Hell, a few versions later, there could even be support for cover art in that header, for the people who want that.

In case of lacking tags, show directory name? Or just do a fullblown formatting string just like with regular track entries. And the nascent virtual tracks thing could really be enhanced with this (listing the whole .cue-able file in the header, or why not an archive file?)

Naturally, this fancification would be optional.

Oh, and to not immediately break compatibility with all existing skins, this could be accomplished in somewhat the same way the library dealt with it. Though later on I think there should be more formatting options in the skin system for this.

[Zarggg]

That won't really work when the playlist is shuffled/otherwise unsorted.

[Tsorovan]

Of course it should be automatically turned off if that's the case.
Actually, better to make it a kind of mode, and make it impossible to shuffle the playlist (globally; an album scope shuffle could still work) in this mode.

Random play would still work as usual of course.

[sequestrum]

That would actually be quite nice to have!

[Ian @ un4seen]

Will this option get a shortcut for different sort options as well?

Yep, here's an update with shortcuts added...

   www.un4seen.com/stuff/xmplay.exe

Two thoughts about this issue:
1. Would it be too long to scan the playlist for tags (if missing) when starting xmplay?
2. Wouldn't current playlist tags best be stored in the library anyway? Even if only as temporary additions (according to user decision) in order to avoid repetitive rescanning  and to allow more flexibility .

I don't think the 1st option would work very well (eg. with large lists), but the 2nd seems like a good idea, so that is what the update above should do.

[Pike84]

Even though it seems like Tsorovan's idea would be a lot of work for smallish gain, I must admit that I like it . Perhaps in the future...

[amit]

Allowing the playlist to contain sub-lists , like the albums based stucture  tsorovan have suggested can be useful. You could then allow  hierarchy arrangement according to genres, artists, date etc' or even show subsongs as a sublists...

I am not sure though this would be on high priority as it is very different from current xmplay list implementation...



 

[Bjossi]

Not sure if this feature is available or not, but I would love a 'Lock playlist' option and/or shortcut. Frequently I accidentally move tracks when double clicking them and don't always notice it. So for example if I decide to lock the playlist, it means tracks can't be moved, added or deleted. Would be a great feature if rearranging/adding to/deleting from the playlist(s) isn't on the horizon, like in my case these days.

This on/off switch would be stored in ini file so it gets saved between sessions and affects all playlists while it is on.

[saga]

That's actually a nice idea, as I sometimes accidently set some tunes to be skipped and other stuff by typing on the xmplay window instead of the "find" window.

[piovrauz]

Tsorovan idea is nice, and could be handy for files+cuesheet or virtual tracks... if!

On a side note: about the slowdown when writing on a usb key, I suggest an improvement... If I just open the option windows, click the weblink button and then exit, or if I just check my settings whitout altering them, XMPlay shouldn't update the ini file or I'm wrong?

And another thing came up tonight: about Tsorovan idea, would it be possible to make zip/rar/7z archives act as albums? as an option

[amit]

Is it possible to add a right click menu to the info/list button that will allow direct access to the available windows (vis,message,library,playlist etc') instead of opening in the last remembered  state and then switching?

[Rah'Dick]

I barely dare to ask... I can haz "sort on add" plz? :X (If it's already possible, would someone be so kind to tell me how?)

Greets, Thomas

[Ian @ un4seen]

I barely dare to ask... I can haz "sort on add" plz? :X (If it's already possible, would someone be so kind to tell me how?)

The problem is that the tags are generally not yet available when tracks are added to the list (unless they happen to already be in the library). The tags are scanned afterwards, so that the track adding is not delayed by that. I guess it could be possible to delay the sorting until after the scanning is done. I'll look into it

[Jace]

Would it be safe enough to sort 'em by filename when added?
It might not be the sorting method the user prefers, but then again, neither is 'random' file order.

[Ian @ un4seen]

OK, here's an experimental update, with auto-sorting of new tracks...

   www.un4seen.com/stuff/xmplay.exe

I'm not entirely sure about it, so it is currently just a shortcut ("List - Auto sort new"). The sorting will be performed after the tags have been scanned, and it will be cancelled if the list is manipulated before then. As I say, I'm not really sure about it, as most of the tag sorting options don't seem very useful done automatically, ie. you wouldn't necessarily want them applied to all new tracks. Perhaps it should be limited to just the filename or formatted title options? Anyway, please report any problems.

Btw, there was a problem with the tag sorting shortcuts (one of them was double-booked) in the last update, so that has been sorted now too. If you were using those shortcuts, you will probably have to set them again.

Is it possible to add a right click menu to the info/list button that will allow direct access to the available windows (vis,message,library,playlist etc') instead of opening in the last remembered  state and then switching?

This has also been added in the update.