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[REVerdi]

More 2 requests:
> Simple entry on playlist popup menu: stop after current.
> Simple option to disable totaly the audio library (optionally hiding the tab too).

[Dotpitch]

> Simple entry on playlist popup menu: stop after current.

Use the shortcut 'List - Auto advance'.

> Better support to cue files: show the cue's tracks at playlist, with the same support if they were individual files.

That has been suggested already, and not just once. I know this thread is growing out of control, but at least check this.

@Ian: I see that I've compiled that "summary" over a year ago. Do you have some idea of when 3.5 will arrive? Perhaps a late Christmas present?

[amit]

Are there any chances to see a 32hz slider added at the low end of the equalizer? It would be nice if we had (almost) complete control of the audible spectrum. Some do have equipment that can play such frequencies 

[Ian @ un4seen]

@Ian: I see that I've compiled that "summary" over a year ago. Do you have some idea of when 3.5 will arrive? Perhaps a late Christmas present?

I definitely want to have 3.5 released before Chrimbo. I'm still hoping to add CUE sheet tracks and the plugin playlist manipulation stuff that I mentioned before, but I haven't come up with a nice way to do that yet. CUE sheet tracks in particular will require some fundamental changes (eg. to playlist entries), so I don't want to make a rash decision and then find that it hinders other things in future. If I can't come up with satisfactory solutions soon, I'll probably leave them out for now.

Btw, of your request compilation, these have also been done (at least partially):

• Previous track in random mode
• Crossfading
• Single click restore from tray    ("SingleClickTray" INI option)
• Close after current track
• Find as you type in playlist
• Check out a track without messing up your playlist (link)    (sort of - "Play listed tracks -> after bookmarking" option)
• Add track, but only play it if not playing something else
• Disable all info bubbles
• Convert _ to spaces in title
• Save playlist periodically
• Format and track length variable for title    ("Filetype" is the format part)
• Archive plug-ins in plug-in list
• Next functions as Random track if Random is on
• Disable pause button flashing    ("NoFlashPause" INI option)

Looking at the remaining list, the "Separate queue from playlist" idea seems like it could be nice, so that'll probably be the next one I look into.

In the meantime, here's the latest stuff...

   www.un4seen.com/stuff/xmplay.exe

The options window has been expanded to include the recently added options: list auto-saving, replaygain peak limiting, manual crossfading. The crossfading option has also been moved to the "Track looping/ending" section, where it can now be adjusted without interrupting playback.

[amit]

Thanks for the update , Ian.

How about a very old request? To add a function to limit the length of strings when formatting titles .

Original code: %2-%3-%1
Example: Sinead O'Connor-I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got-Nothing Compares To You

New Code: %limit{%2,8}-%limit{%3,8}-%limit{%1,8)
Example: Sinead O'C-I Do Not Wa-Nothing Compa

This will allow to show more useful information in the playlist.

If it is possible to have two different title formats for the playlist panel and the extended playlist window it will be even better as the playlist panel available space is very limiting.

[a1shot]

Hi Guys.
Am a 4-5 year user of XMplayer. I already sent my gratitude for this wonderful product i personally never had problems with. Just came to thank you again and stumbled across the suggestions forum. I am so happy to know that work is continuing since i advertise your player to all i know - for me its by far the best software i have - it never bugs, glitches, freezes or anything. Seriously, i would love to see it on my PC in 10 years.

I do have some suggestions - some i forgot but ill come back to give them. I seem to read the 50 or how many suggestions already taken in account. When showing to my friend he asked if there is something like a multiple playlist support, which would be good actually.Something like a tree view in the playlist, having the name as a root and then the + for expanding or double click. Anyway, you may check it out if it is possible.

Another thing was that it always loads the track info for the track (could not find where to change it). My tracks sometimes have crap as info - but the filenames are normal. So when i have an album and it has all filenames good, but turns out xmplays shows only 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 because each track has only 01 as a track number and that's it - i really would like to see the file names instead.

I use the somewhat usual XMPlayer theme, and i don't use the smallest possible configuration - meaning i have the queue opened, but always the info/playlist also - because the queue is tooo small...or short. would be good to toggle its size.

Sorry if i repeated anything. I need to work but could stand the temptation. Anyways. If would need to buy XMplayer - "I definitely would ".
Cheers XMplayers!:)

PS -would like to be the tester of the new thang if you are going to test
Posted on:  6 Nov '09 - 22:23Oooh. Yeah - remembered one more.
Song rating? Anyone asked for that?
I guess this presumes the playlist sort function also. Would be good to sort by genre and add info about it fast in the file properties - so after listening i decide to make it a house song and then sort or search for house songs. But i would like to edit the properties right away like clicking double a bit wih a delay (like windows folder/file rename delay) and change what i want.

Also, talking about previous trees - i sometimes drag the whole folder, so would be good in this case to see that its in a seprate folder. Meaning if i drag 2 folders i would like to know they are different (or 10:)). How? Well, maybe a different color, or tree view again. Thus we could collapse and uncollapse it.

And having a lot of external plugins - well would be good to have a one solid player with all in it already. Taking it from a usual user perspective who does not know how and does not want to know how:0) - such people are taken by possibilities, so the more formats the player supports, the better.

Taking it from the extreeme point - any video support plans ? I have a stupid KMPlayer that hangs the pc and would really like something liter:)

[Dotpitch]

Am a 4-5 year user of XMplayer.

XMPlay. Not XMPlayer.

Another thing was that it always loads the track info for the track (could not find where to change it). My tracks sometimes have crap as info - but the filenames are normal. So when i have an album and it has all filenames good, but turns out xmplays shows only 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 because each track has only 01 as a track number and that's it - i really would like to see the file names instead.

You can change the title formatting to %0 (=filename), or just tick 'Show filenames in extended list' on the Playlist page of Options and stuff. On the other hand, it'd be nicer to just correct the tags, either with XMPlays built-in library or with a dedicated tagger like MP3Tag.

Song rating? Anyone asked for that?

Yup. You can use the Comment field if you really need it right now.

And having a lot of external plugins - well would be good to have a one solid player with all in it already. Taking it from a usual user perspective who does not know how and does not want to know how:0) - such people are taken by possibilities, so the more formats the player supports, the better.

The most important format for users-who-do-not-want-to-know is MP3, which is supported natively. Putting all the plugins within XMPlay would give you a large program, while you would only use a fraction of the features. If you're looking for installation comfort, check out the XMPlay Audiophile Megapack or the XMPlay Installer.

Taking it from the extreeme point - any video support plans ?

No.

[a1shot]

Well, thanx for the answer. Will use the megapack for sure now.
1- sorry for the 'player' thing - we do call it a player..since it plays. but it was really late and i was reallly tired.
2- it is sometimes a pain in the ass to deal with the track info for 10 gb of music. Since i have 150 gb now and more come eventually, the less time it takes the better. I use something like a Total Commander where you change the files names and etc in bulk. But anyhow i do use XMplay to change the track info of a desired song. Would be easier to do it straight in the playlist.
3- about the filename - is it possible to do it for a portion of files - example, i select 10 of 100 and just tick somewhere show filenames for them?
4- any plans for the multiplaylist support?
Cheers

[a1shot]

Am a 4-5 year user of XMplayer.

The most important format for users-who-do-not-want-to-know is MP3, which is supported natively. Putting all the plugins within XMPlay would give you a large program, while you would only use a fraction of the features. If you're looking for installation comfort, check out the XMPlay Audiophile Megapack or the XMPlay Installer.

BTW - The colorfull link is broken i guess.

[piovrauz]

> Simple entry on playlist popup menu: stop after current.

Use the shortcut 'List - Auto advance'.

I think REVerdi means to add that as a one time only command, like while having auto advance enable, right click  stop button (for example) and after the current song is played stop playback (if playback is restarted, it'll autoadvance without change). I remember asking for this in the past, but with the ability to also auto-close xmplay after the playback of current track.

[Ian @ un4seen]

How about a very old request? To add a function to limit the length of strings when formatting titles .

Original code: %2-%3-%1
Example: Sinead O'Connor-I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got-Nothing Compares To You

New Code: %limit{%2,8}-%limit{%3,8}-%limit{%1,8)
Example: Sinead O'C-I Do Not Wa-Nothing Compa

This will allow to show more useful information in the playlist.

If it is possible to have two different title formats for the playlist panel and the extended playlist window it will be even better as the playlist panel available space is very limiting.

I did consider it, but I couldn't think of when it would be really useful, as cropping things to a fixed length is unlikely to give very nice results. Your example above being a case in point ... If there was an additional "playlist panel" title format option, a "limit" option could be more useful then. I'll look into that.

In the meantime, here's an update in which the playlist and queue are separate, eg. tracks can be in the queue without being in the playlist...

   www.un4seen.com/stuff/xmplay.exe

The queue is basically a temporary playlist, where tracks are automatically removed after being played. A couple of other requested things that are now possible are playing tracks without adding them to the playlist and queueing the currently playing track. Tracks can also be queued multiple times (with "No duplicates" disabled), but that means that toggling queueing via a single option/shortcut is no longer possible; a "Dequeue" option has been added to remove all instances of a track (apart from a playing instance) from the queue. Another change is that the library's "Play" option will play the track(s) from the queue instead of adding to and playing from the playlist; that applies to the "Find tracks" window too.

I'm sure there are some things that need tweaking, so please report any problems/ideas/etc...

[amit]

I did consider it, but I couldn't think of when it would be really useful, as cropping things to a fixed length is unlikely to give very nice results. Your example above being a case in point ... If there was an additional "playlist panel" title format option, a "limit" option could be more useful then. I'll look into that.

I am aware it doesn't look elegant You could allow ellipsis (or other sign) if the string is truncated.Then it will become:

Sinead O'C...- I Do Not Wa...- Nothing Compa..


Edit:
On a side note , I don't see why the extended playlist don't follow the library layout. A columns solution will work best for optimizing the presentation of information and make the sorting by tag swift and logical instead of the menu . You can even allow a "formatted titles" column that will show the current playlist panel titles. Files without tags can use this column or just the file name column as in the library.

[Pike84]

On a side note , I don't see why the extended playlist don't follow the library layout.

It's just an alternative. What's your point; what would then make the views distinct? Or do you think that the playlist view is completely obsolete?

[amit]

They library and the playlist serve a different purpose but with the added functionality of sorting according to tags the playlist have become very  similar to the library but less intuitive to operate.

[Pike84]

The library and playlist may be similar in functionality, but I think the reason why they serve a different purpose is exactly in the layout. The library is better for handling a large number of tracks, while the playlist may be preferred for "more casual" listening with less cluttered interface, where all that information and flexibility in sorting aren't necessary.

[Ian @ un4seen]

I am aware it doesn't look elegant You could allow ellipsis (or other sign) if the string is truncated.Then it will become:

Sinead O'C...- I Do Not Wa...- Nothing Compa..

Here's something else to try...

   www.un4seen.com/stuff/xmplay.exe

Instead of chopping off the end of the titles, it'll chop out the middle. I can't really decide whether it's better this way; I think it works quite well when the playlist panel is reasonably big, but not so much when its small (the "..." takes valuable space then). What do you think?

[amit]

Here's something else to try...

   www.un4seen.com/stuff/xmplay.exe

Instead of chopping off the end of the titles, it'll chop out the middle. I can't really decide whether it's better this way; I think it works quite well when the playlist panel is reasonably big, but not so much when its small (the "..." takes valuable space then). What do you think?

1. How do you opearate this new feature?
2.You could let the user decide what to add if part of the string is omitted. For instance :

%limit{%2,8,".."}/%limit{%3,8,"+"}/%limit{%1,8,"") => Sinead O../I Do Not+/Nothing

[Ian @ un4seen]

You shouldn't have to do anything to enable it, just add a track with a long title to the playlist/queue

[amit]

1. I see... You referred to the title as a single string. It looks more elegant than shredded tags but less useful in my opinion as the beginnings of tags are more important for understanding the meaning. I am sure people would prefer to see the end of titles truncated instead of loosing the middle of them.
For example - in current situation I see : "in Strict Confidence - [#0...aub(extended ISC Version)". Only the first half is useful. The rest is not helping much.

It will be better If there's a way to point xmplay to truncate the end of chosen tag expressions or to mark dividers in the formatting syntax.

For example :

%2%DIVIDER - [#%5]%1    =>    In St... - [#01]Engelsstaub (Extended ISC Version)

Or

%2%DIVIDER - %3%DIVIDER - [#%5]%1    =>    In Stri... - Albu... [#01]Engelsstaub (Extended ISC Version)

2 About the separation of the queue from the list :

Are all actions that used to send files to the queue  sends them now both to the playlist and to the queue?

The numbering of the tracks has less meaning than before as not all files are shown in that list anyway.

"Follow current track" doesn't jump to the queue list when tracks are apparent only there.

[Ian @ un4seen]

1. I see... You referred to the title as a single string. It looks more elegant than shredded tags but less useful in my opinion as the beginnings of tags are more important for understanding the meaning. I am sure people would prefer to see the end of titles truncated instead of loosing the middle of them.
For example - in current situation I see : "in Strict Confidence - [#0...aub(extended ISC Version)". Only the first half is useful. The rest is not helping much.

Yep, on balance, it probably isn't a good idea to chop out the middle, especially as the playlist panel is quite skinny in most skins; I've put it back to how it was. I'll look into adding a separate formatting string for the playlist panel. In the meantime, here's an update to try, with an experimental "cut" title formatting option...

   www.un4seen.com/stuff/xmplay.exe

The format of the new option is "%cut{string|length|replacement}". For example, "%cut{%1|10|...}" would limit the title to 10 characters and add "..." when the length is limited. The 3rd parameter (replacement string) is optional. If the replacement string would take the limited length beyond the original length, then the original string will be retained instead, eg. if no more than 3 characters are removed from the title in this example.

As I say, it's experimental, so please report your findings.

2 About the separation of the queue from the list :

Are all actions that used to send files to the queue  sends them now both to the playlist and to the queue?

No, it's the other way round

Queued tracks (eg. from the library or "Find Tracks" window) used to be added to the playlist too (if they weren't already there), but not now, as queued tracks no longer need to also be in the playlist.