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Dotpitch
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« Reply #1100 on: 22 Dec '09 - 18:28 »
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Yep, that just made it in time for 3.5.
Nice to see 3.5 released Smiley. 2.5 years of steady development surely justifies a version number increase.

Along those lines, in the update above, the "phrase/any/all" options have been replaced by a more flexible inline "+/-" system. ...
I'm not sure whether I like the search defaulting to "any" rather than "all", it is different from search engines on the Internet. It is more intuitive, so I'll have to get used to it Wink.

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saga
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« Reply #1101 on: 22 Dec '09 - 19:25 »
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Yay! Congratulations, job well done. Wink
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FB
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« Reply #1102 on: 22 Dec '09 - 22:18 »
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Is cool to see a new version! Great work Ian.
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Ian @ un4seen
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« Reply #1103 on: 23 Dec '09 - 13:19 »
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I'm not sure whether I like the search defaulting to "any" rather than "all", it is different from search engines on the Internet. It is more intuitive, so I'll have to get used to it Wink.

In hindsight, it probably would have been better to match "all" words by default, as that is probably what most people will want most of the time. "+/-" just had a nice symmetry to it Smiley

I guess it could be changed in the next update, but what prefix to use for "any"? Maybe "?", eg. the "+a -b c d" example would become "a -b ?c ?d". I'm not sure.
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Dotpitch
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« Reply #1104 on: 23 Dec '09 - 14:09 »
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I guess it could be changed in the next update, but what prefix to use for "any"? Maybe "?", eg. the "+a -b c d" example would become "a -b ?c ?d". I'm not sure.
"?" is already used for conditional formatting in the title string, but I don't really see an alternative. The "|" is usually not a prefix, and is easliy confused with an "l" or "I". (term1,term2,term3) is just too much work, and requires you to close the set.
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Jimmy Neutron
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« Reply #1105 on: 23 Dec '09 - 15:31 »
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I guess it could be changed in the next update, but what prefix to use for "any"? Maybe "?", eg. the "+a -b c d" example would become "a -b ?c ?d". I'm not sure.

How about the tilde?

The ~ seems to convey what you're trying to say.
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Ian @ un4seen
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« Reply #1106 on: 23 Dec '09 - 17:15 »
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I'm not sure about that. The "any" processing is an "or" operation, ie. the end result is true if the result for any of the words is true. '|' would be an ideal candidate (referring to the C/C++ operator and also supported by Google), but as Dotpitch mentions, that looks a lot like a few other characters. Perhaps there is another single character used for "or" in other programming/scripting languages?

Another idea would be to take it a step further, and allow the "any" processing to be grouped. For example, "a|b c|d" would mean that "a" or "b" needs to be present, and "c" or "d" needs to be present (assuming '|' is the any/or operator).
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amit
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« Reply #1107 on: 23 Dec '09 - 17:16 »
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I guess it could be changed in the next update, but what prefix to use for "any"? Maybe "?", eg. the "+a -b c d" example would become "a -b ?c ?d". I'm not sure.

Instead of prefix for "any" you could decide on a symbol to say "or". For example if that symbol is "|" then "x|b|c -e" means all tracks with a or b c excluding tracks with e.  

Edit: Ian , You beat me by a few seconds with the same proposal Smiley
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alexanderino
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« Reply #1108 on: 24 Dec '09 - 11:37 »
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Hello,

with 3.5, I notice that the Frames display has been removed. In 3.4, it used to cycle between time elapsed, time remaining and frames.

A search revealed this: http://www.un4seen.com/forum/?topic=8404.msg57725;hl=frames#msg57725

I would really appreciate a menu option [or even a hidden .ini option] to turn this back on. It's one of the many eccentricities that has won my heart over.

Regards,

Jason
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bornyank1
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« Reply #1109 on: 28 Dec '09 - 23:54 »
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Does dragging a track into the queue window make it start playing immediately instead of adding it to the queue? Seems to be working that way for me.
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Dotpitch
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« Reply #1110 on: 29 Dec '09 - 10:18 »
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Does dragging a track into the queue window make it start playing immediately instead of adding it to the queue? Seems to be working that way for me.
I think that depends on the setting you have for Options and stuff > Integration > Play listed tracks. Does that help?
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Ian @ un4seen
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« Reply #1111 on: 29 Dec '09 - 16:31 »
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Another idea would be to take it a step further, and allow the "any" processing to be grouped. For example, "a|b c|d" would mean that "a" or "b" needs to be present, and "c" or "d" needs to be present (assuming '|' is the any/or operator).

Here's an update to try...

   www.un4seen.com/stuff/xmplay.exe

The default is now to require the words to be present, and '/' has been added as an "any/or" operator. For example, "a b/c" means that "a" needs to be present, and "b" or "c" needs to be present. It can also be combined with the "not" operator ('-'); for example, "a b/-c" means that "a" needs to be present, and "b" needs to be present or "c" needs to be not present.

Please report any problems/etc...
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bornyank1
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« Reply #1112 on: 29 Dec '09 - 23:08 »
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Does dragging a track into the queue window make it start playing immediately instead of adding it to the queue? Seems to be working that way for me.
I think that depends on the setting you have for Options and stuff > Integration > Play listed tracks. Does that help?

Yep, setting it to "if not playing" fixed my problem. Thanks.
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Zarggg
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« Reply #1113 on: 4 Jan '10 - 05:36 »
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I would really appreciate a menu option (or even a hidden .ini option) to turn [the frame counter] back on. It's one of the many eccentricities that has won my heart over.

I second this.
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Ian @ un4seen
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« Reply #1114 on: 22 Jan '10 - 15:39 »
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Here's an update to try...

   www.un4seen.com/stuff/xmplay.exe

The default is now to require the words to be present, and '/' has been added as an "any/or" operator. For example, "a b/c" means that "a" needs to be present, and "b" or "c" needs to be present. It can also be combined with the "not" operator ('-'); for example, "a b/-c" means that "a" needs to be present, and "b" needs to be present or "c" needs to be not present.

Please report any problems/etc...

I think it's probably time for a 3.5.1 release, but first, does anyone have any thoughts on the search option changes above, eg. is it working well and/or could it be improved?
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saga
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« Reply #1115 on: 23 Jan '10 - 12:10 »
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Ian, as I said before, it would be nice to have a checkbox there to disable handling multiple words as mutiple search terms, because I actually always prepend a "quote" character to my searches so that searching for mutiple words actually works the way it worked before.
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« Reply #1116 on: 24 Jan '10 - 19:19 »
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I am quite happy with the search as it is, since you’re asking.  Type the main words in the title of a song and you’re there. So 1 vote for keeping it the way it is.
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Ian @ un4seen
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« Reply #1117 on: 26 Jan '10 - 16:10 »
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Ian, as I said before, it would be nice to have a checkbox there to disable handling multiple words as mutiple search terms, because I actually always prepend a "quote" character to my searches so that searching for mutiple words actually works the way it worked before.

A problem with the old system (the phrase/any/all selector) was that it couldn't be changed in "quick find" mode, so that was stuck with whatever the current setting was. That's one reason why it was changed, so that those options are available via the search text instead. But here's an update with a "Single phrase" option, which will disable the new search text processing and treat it as a single phrase...

   www.un4seen.com/stuff/xmplay.exe
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saga
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« Reply #1118 on: 26 Jan '10 - 18:13 »
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thanks!
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saga
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« Reply #1119 on: 27 Jan '10 - 22:34 »
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Ian, it's a bit strange that the status of this checkbox won't be saved when using "apply", though... at least not between two xmplay sessions.
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