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[JacekH]

I'm not sure about BASS licensing type in these scenarios:

1. I'm an individual developer. I have written a player based on BASS library with a full freeware license. It's completely free for any purpose, also commercial. Does it violate BASS license?

2. Again about the player... If any developer in his/her shareware/commercial product uses my completely freeware player as an external (independent, but suggested) module for playing audio is it ok with BASS license?

3. I also work for a radio station. We've bought Delphi for developing small (mostly internal use) software utilities. I have an idea to give (freeware) our listeners a network (stream) player, just kind of WinAmp replacement with our radio station logo. Do we need to buy BASS license?

Regards,
Jacek

[Ian @ un4seen]

1. I'm an individual developer. I have written a player based on BASS library with a full freeware license. It's completely free for any purpose, also commercial. Does it violate BASS license?

Possibly. The commercial use of BASS requires a licence, and by using your player, they're also using BASS. For example, if a company wanted to include it in a product of theirs, that would require a licence or express permission.

2. Again about the player... If any developer in his/her shareware/commercial product uses my completely freeware player as an external (independent, but suggested) module for playing audio is it ok with BASS license?

Can you please clarify how the product would be using your player? For example, would it simply launch a player (yours or other) to play files? That would be OK, so long as your player and their product are entirely separate, eg. they're not distributing your player and their product doesn't depend on your player/BASS.

3. I also work for a radio station. We've bought Delphi for developing small (mostly internal use) software utilities. I have an idea to give (freeware) our listeners a network (stream) player, just kind of WinAmp replacement with our radio station logo. Do we need to buy BASS license?

Yes, if it is a commercial station, not a non-moneymaking hobby.

[JacekH]

1. I'm an individual developer. I have written a player based on BASS library with a full freeware license. It's completely free for any purpose, also commercial. Does it violate BASS license?

Possibly. The commercial use of BASS requires a licence, and by using your player, they're also using BASS. For example, if a company wanted to include it in a product of theirs, that would require a licence or express permission.

So any freeware, donationware etc. software using your BASS under non-commercial license can be used only by non-commercial users. Am I right?

2. Again about the player... If any developer in his/her shareware/commercial product uses my completely freeware player as an external (independent, but suggested) module for playing audio is it ok with BASS license?

Can you please clarify how the product would be using your player? For example, would it simply launch a player (yours or other) to play files? That would be OK, so long as your player and their product are entirely separate, eg. they're not distributing your player and their product doesn't depend on your player/BASS.

The question is similar to question 1. E.g. I have a very simple audio player. It can be called from the command line with a parameter as an audio file path . Another software (e.g. commercial) can use any player, but mine is suggested and can be downloaded free.

3. I also work for a radio station. We've bought Delphi for developing small (mostly internal use) software utilities. I have an idea to give (freeware) our listeners a network (stream) player, just kind of WinAmp replacement with our radio station logo. Do we need to buy BASS license?

Yes, if it is a commercial station, not a non-moneymaking hobby.

We are public (national) radio station. What kind of license should we buy? Our player is free for any purpose.

Regards,
Jacek

[Ian @ un4seen]

1. I'm an individual developer. I have written a player based on BASS library with a full freeware license. It's completely free for any purpose, also commercial. Does it violate BASS license?

Possibly. The commercial use of BASS requires a licence, and by using your player, they're also using BASS. For example, if a company wanted to include it in a product of theirs, that would require a licence or express permission.

So any freeware, donationware etc. software using your BASS under non-commercial license can be used only by non-commercial users. Am I right?

I guess it depends on the definition of "non-commercial users". I think "for non-commercial purposes" may be a better wording. For example, I would have no problem with people listening to your player while they are at work, but if they were using the player for commercial purposes (eg. including it in their product), that would be a different matter.

2. Again about the player... If any developer in his/her shareware/commercial product uses my completely freeware player as an external (independent, but suggested) module for playing audio is it ok with BASS license?

Can you please clarify how the product would be using your player? For example, would it simply launch a player (yours or other) to play files? That would be OK, so long as your player and their product are entirely separate, eg. they're not distributing your player and their product doesn't depend on your player/BASS.

The question is similar to question 1. E.g. I have a very simple audio player. It can be called from the command line with a parameter as an audio file path . Another software (e.g. commercial) can use any player, but mine is suggested and can be downloaded free.

So it is basically the same way that external encoders (LAME/etc) are used? That is fine, so long as they are totally independent products, eg. the company are not providing the player themselves.

3. I also work for a radio station. We've bought Delphi for developing small (mostly internal use) software utilities. I have an idea to give (freeware) our listeners a network (stream) player, just kind of WinAmp replacement with our radio station logo. Do we need to buy BASS license?

Yes, if it is a commercial station, not a non-moneymaking hobby.

We are public (national) radio station. What kind of license should we buy? Our player is free for any purpose.

That sounds like it would require a Single Commercial licence.

[Roger Hågensen]

As to question 3. If by public you mean a non-profit/non-advertisement "public" station then that is non-commercial I guess.
But if it's a large station with a good budget, a single commercial license might be a nice gesture to Ian. (BASS is a damn great library after all

For an example of a non-commercial/non-profit (heck we're bleeding money out of our own pockets, despite being sponsored) we have no advertisements (except funny "fake" ones) although we tend to promote the game we broadcast from "within" and that company, we are under no contract or obligation to do so. Heck we sometimes diss certain silly things they do.
http://gridstream.org/ click on Launch or Get Player, as you can see the player can be downloaded there and there only. (stupid RIAA and Loudcity limitations, but we have to do it, and fork out loads of cash for royalties, did I hint we really dislike the RIAA for blackmailing free radio stations?
There is also a option to use other players (.pls url) like Winamp or even Un4seen's own XMPlay (with the AAC plugin) and so on.
The player at being started shows a splash window where we display the BASS logo, as well as metion it in the manual. (the least we can do) BASS has no logo requirements for the "free" license, rather surprising really. So my advice is promote the hell out of BASS when you use it by using a splash window or similar.

I'm also working on two other projects using BASS, one will be a internal tool that could become a shareware tool (pay if you like it and want to support it) and as soon as €100 has accumulated I'll be getting the shareware license ASAP. The second project will most likely start as shareware too but might go "commercial" not long after, and I'm hoping to go straight for the unlimited commercial, but depending on the money coming in on that one I may only be able to afford the single product license. I'll probably be asking Ian for confirmation when that time comes with details of it as the end users may or may not be commercial entities using that 2nd project software for commercial profit, (although indirectly) so it could end up requiring a double license for all I know. (for each commercial user)

BASS licenses aren't expensive, heck a certain popular competing product is more than twice as costly, and depending on the license, multiple times more costly even.

Important! If you plan to support mp3 (and it's for commercial purposes) you may want to use the non mp3 version of BASS, and thus the ACM mp3 codec installed in the system will be used instead. If not you may need to handle the issue with mp3 licensing. (a bit uncertain on the mp3 license on this, for encoding and commercial use however, you must license mp3, so check up on playback as well) Same with aac/aacplus etc.
Ogg Vorbis is free to use, even for commercial and BASS supports Ogg obviously.
Note! If the station if simulcasting what goes "on the airwaves" on the internet as well, make sure you guys already have a internet webcasting license, the RIAA requires separate royalties for that. (the DMCA gives me a headache)

I'll shut up now, I've probably blabbered about more than you asked for. Heh! I tend to do that!
Oh and if something I said above is wrong or misunderstood feel free to correct me. I may not always be correct.

[www.fullmm.com]

I have a application and i want to sale it ,it is 5.9$ what License i need for it , and how is money .

[radio42]

Sounds like a shareware license for BASS - and if you are using BASS.NET you also need a shareware license for BASS.NET in addition.

[www.fullmm.com]

thanks ,is it 120$ ?

[www.fullmm.com]

all of encoder which bass.net using that is free , which we can use for our application and sale it ,.

[radio42]

Yes, together that's 129 EUR - not US$ ;-)

Regarding the encoders - many encoders are not free - but some are.
E.g. you are not allowed to ship LAME with your application, but can offer a link so that the users can download it...then it is free.
Also many encoders require additional licenses or patent fees to be paid.
You should definitly check each individual license of each encoder!

The same is valid for decoding (playback):
- MP3 decoding requires a license from Thomson (www.mp3licensing.com),
  . except you use the MP3-free version of BASS.
- AAC decoding requires a license from VIA (http://www.vialicensing.com)
So you should also check each individual license of each decoder!

[pedped]

thank you for replying but i can't find which license i need . i need aac or mp3 license for playing!

[radio42]

If you play both (MP3 and AAC) then you need a license for both - plus BASS plus BASS.NET

[pedped]

for faac or flac or mpc ?
how money for all is under 100$ or above;

[pedped]

i see .75 $ for mp3 per unit , is it mean for each copy of application i must pay .75$ . or for any copy of application.

[Ian @ un4seen]

for faac or flac or mpc ?

FAAC is an AAC encoder, so you would probably need an AAC patent licence (for encoding) if you want to include that in your app. Of course, you could just let the users download it themselves instead, like most people do with LAME for MP3 encoding.

As far as I know, FLAC and MPC don't have any patent/licensing requirements.

i see .75 $ for mp3 per unit

You don't need an MP3 patent licence (for decoding) if you use the "MP3-FREE" version of BASS.

[pedped]

for mp3 encoding ? is it for each copy of application .

[pedped]

who can get a list for me which all of decoder and encoder license i need ,
i using lame.exe twolame.exe and any progrom which bass.net used originaly and for decing i use any Bass.net decoders addos.  please help meeeeeeeeeee.

[radio42]

Correct!
However, the license for MP3 (if needed) and AAC are anyhow quite hight....since it is unfortunately not only $.75 per sold application, but they also have a mininum fee, which is some thousand $! at best you deal with them directly, since here we can just give a direction. So you should definitly contact Thomson and VIA...