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Pappe

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Compact soundfont set
« on: 3 Aug '08 - 17:49 »
Was looking for a decent, compact soundfont set, and found one that's only 3.67 MB:
http://www.sf2midi.com/soundfonts/file-detail/yamaha-xg-sound-set-re-map-sf2-3993.html

Rich Nagel

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Re: Compact soundfont set
« Reply #1 on: 4 Aug '08 - 12:56 »
BTW, speaking of small soundfonts, check the "The smallest General Midi ("GM") SoundFont I know about" link on this page -> http://www.synthfont.com

Not the greatest sounding SF2, but definately the best for it's small size -:) FYI, after the guy posted that one on his web site (quite some time ago), he was asking folks where it originally came from.

After a bit of research, I determined/discovered that it's the *actual* soundfont contained in the 1MB onboard ROM on a standard AWE32 card.

Pappe

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Re: Compact soundfont set
« Reply #2 on: 4 Aug '08 - 13:37 »
BTW, speaking of small soundfonts, check the "The smallest General Midi ("GM") SoundFont I know about" link on this page -> http://www.synthfont.com
Thanks for the tip, I checked it out and also the Roland GM_1.sf2 at http://sounds.diinoweb.com/files/SoundFonts/

I am primarily interested in piano and strings sounds and for those I still prefer the Yamaha XG set. But I am open for more suggestions!

Pappe

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Re: Compact soundfont set
« Reply #3 on: 21 Aug '08 - 10:59 »
Just want to add that to me the accordion from the Roland set sounds far superior to the one from Yamaha. Using both sets is still compact since they are just 3.1MB  and 3.7MB.

Pappe

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Re: Compact soundfont set
« Reply #4 on: 21 Aug '08 - 16:54 »
Rounding off my monolog(ue) :-) I just tested the CT4MGM.SF2 which can be found here:
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/joethedude/downloads_section/soundfonts_mainpage.html

It is 4MB in size as the name implies and in my opinion blows away the others previously discussed.

saga

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Re: Compact soundfont set
« Reply #5 on: 21 Aug '08 - 17:31 »
i like the 8mbgm_enhanced18.sf2 which is supposed to sound close to the old AWE cards and works amazingly good with old game musics.

Pappe

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Previously: Compact soundfont set
« Reply #6 on: 22 Aug '08 - 18:00 »
When size doesn't matter I use 28MBGM.SF2 as my default set. On top of that I stack  soundfonts (right now just accordion) from CT8MGM.SF2.

Pappe

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Re: Compact soundfont set
« Reply #7 on: 22 Aug '08 - 20:24 »
Again, having converted gm.dls from XP into an .sf2 soundfont set, to me that compares favorably to the CT4MGM.SF2 set. The converted set ended up a compact 3.11 MB.

Chocobito

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Re: Compact soundfont set
« Reply #8 on: 24 Aug '08 - 07:22 »
 :) Hi, here is the AWE ROM GM sound font, actually is the real set from a Sound Blaster AWE32 ripped from the memory, only 1Mb
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=29625309268479929274

Its good but in little soundfont i like more CT4MGM.SF2  :-\

Pappe

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Re: Compact soundfont set
« Reply #9 on: 24 Aug '08 - 15:58 »
Thanks, not bad for such a small footprint. But I have made some midi files earlier based on the default Windows XP (gm.dls) sounds, so I think I'll stick to the converted set.

saga

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Re: Compact soundfont set
« Reply #10 on: 24 Aug '08 - 20:15 »
never ever use the gm.dls if you can avoid it! :o

Rich Nagel

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Re: Compact soundfont set
« Reply #11 on: 25 Aug '08 - 06:48 »
:) Hi, here is the AWE ROM GM sound font, actually is the real set from a Sound Blaster AWE32 ripped from the memory, only 1Mb
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=29625309268479929274


BTW, speaking of small soundfonts, check the "The smallest General Midi ("GM") SoundFont I know about" link on this page -> http://www.synthfont.com

Not the greatest sounding SF2, but definately the best for it's small size -:) FYI, after the guy posted that one on his web site (quite some time ago), he was asking folks where it originally came from.

After a bit of research, I determined/discovered that it's the *actual* soundfont contained in the 1MB onboard ROM on a standard AWE32 card.


:wink: -:)

Pappe

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Re: Compact soundfont set
« Reply #12 on: 25 Aug '08 - 14:31 »
Yes, noticed.

Chocobito

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Re: Compact soundfont set
« Reply #13 on: 26 Aug '08 - 23:51 »
:) Hi, here is the AWE ROM GM sound font, actually is the real set from a Sound Blaster AWE32 ripped from the memory, only 1Mb
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=29625309268479929274


BTW, speaking of small soundfonts, check the "The smallest General Midi ("GM") SoundFont I know about" link on this page -> http://www.synthfont.com

Not the greatest sounding SF2, but definately the best for it's small size -:) FYI, after the guy posted that one on his web site (quite some time ago), he was asking folks where it originally came from.

After a bit of research, I determined/discovered that it's the *actual* soundfont contained in the 1MB onboard ROM on a standard AWE32 card.


:wink: -:)

Hear both soundfonts, they sound slightly different (maybe the same project with different person).   ;)

By the way,there you can find the smallest GM soundfound that I found, is the Hollywood GM soundfont with only 512K  :)
http://soundfonts.homemusician.net/collections_soundfonts/hollywood_gm.html
« Last Edit: 27 Aug '08 - 00:01 by Chocobito »

Rich Nagel

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Re: Compact soundfont set
« Reply #14 on: 28 Aug '08 - 06:49 »
Hear both soundfonts, they sound slightly different (maybe the same project with different person).   ;)

I'm not sure about the other, but during my research (eons ago) for the one linked in my previous post, I discovered that one (1MGM.SF2) had shipped with E-mu's "SoundFont Librarian". So's, the way I figger it, that one would be the *actual* one from the AWE32 ROM.

Hehe, BTW, I also have several AWE32 sound cards. Loading in the afore-mentioned SF2, and then comparing it with no SF2 loaded onto the AWE32's on-board RAM, they sound identical -:)

piovrauz

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Re: Compact soundfont set
« Reply #15 on: 28 Aug '08 - 09:36 »
ehm, I'd like to ask if you (Rich Nagel) can put somewhere the 1MGM.SF2. I had a awe32, and some midi sounded better with that. but I haven't succeded in finding it so far :P so it'll be useful for my old midi stuff. thanks.

Pappe

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Re: Compact soundfont set
« Reply #16 on: 28 Aug '08 - 14:43 »
The 1MGM.SF2 can be found here:
http://www.sf2midi.com/soundfonts/file-detail/1mgm-sf2-233.html

So, listened to the Hollywood and 1MGM.SF2 sets, and also compared Roland GM_1.sf2 to the converted Windows default gm.dls which seem identical. After some reconsideration I'm back with the CT4MGM.sf2 as my favorite compact set. The grand piano sounds a bit muffled, possibly because of low sampling frequency, but I can live with that.

piovrauz

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Re: Compact soundfont set
« Reply #17 on: 28 Aug '08 - 15:40 »
yes, I got there but can't register. they don't send back my activation mail...

Rich Nagel

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Re: Compact soundfont set
« Reply #18 on: 29 Aug '08 - 00:50 »
ehm, I'd like to ask if you (Rich Nagel) can put somewhere the 1MGM.SF2. I had a awe32, and some midi sounded better with that. but I haven't succeded in finding it so far :P so it'll be useful for my old midi stuff. thanks.

Try here -> http://www.saunalahti.fi/kru99/SYNTHGMS.SF2 . That's the one I was refering to in my previous posts (the *true* SF2 from the AWE32's on-board ROM, and also the one that shipped with E-mu's "SoundFont Librarian" program).

piovrauz

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Re: Compact soundfont set
« Reply #19 on: 29 Aug '08 - 07:56 »
thanks. now I can listern to these old midi that changed so dramatically. :)

t0mm

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Re: Compact soundfont set
« Reply #20 on: 10 Jan '10 - 17:52 »
"WMP uses the Roland GM Soundfont which is integrated into Windows. You could download it as an sf2-file, but then you're better off with a different soundfont (read this thread)."

Where I can find that sf2-file?

Zarggg

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Re: Compact soundfont set
« Reply #21 on: 12 Jan '10 - 06:27 »
It's in system32\drivers, but it's actually a crappy 3 megabyte soundfont in .DLS format (which I don't think XMPlay can use). Here's a copy of the 8 megabyte soundfont that SoundBlaster (used to?) distributes:

http://www.mediafire.com/?4ugwemdynu2
« Last Edit: 12 Jan '10 - 06:29 by Zarggg »

t0mm

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Re: Compact soundfont set
« Reply #22 on: 14 Jan '10 - 17:15 »
Thank You for the answer. I have found the gm.dls and converted it to sf2. In XMPlay it sounds similar to Windows midi engine and is O.K. for me. I need it because my score program use Windows midi. To play with different soundfont i need to rebuild scores. I regret that my english is so bad. I have some questions, maybe somebody could help me a little or say something interesting. XMPlay has greatest midi I ever sow but I can't find any really correctly builded soundfont (i have many) and i cannot use this sound in any other program and I cannot use sound of any other program in XMPlay. The only quite correct sounds i found was in soundcards like my Yamaha ymf724 in my old computer. Every SF2 files I found that pretend Yamaha are not acceptable. The SynthFont i configured to work as windows midi replacement is not good. Maybe somebody can help me how to configure it to work better?
Regards.

RedBaron

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Re: Compact soundfont set
« Reply #23 on: 15 Jan '10 - 21:01 »
So Ct8mgm.sf2 is the best soundfont? whats the last word on this?
I tried it but prefer the windows 7 soundfont as the doom 2 soundtrack sounds smoother

saga

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Re: Compact soundfont set
« Reply #24 on: 15 Jan '10 - 22:48 »
Please define "best". Among the compact soundfonts, it is possible a good choice. But there are a lot bigger soundfonts, which sound "better", depending on what sound you are actually aiming for.