Misspelling of 'color'

Started by Brightguy,

Brightguy

#20
I searched for some sites that would show some British / American spelling variations; here's two of them:

http://www.xpdnc.com/moreinfo/orlabour.html

http://www.inter-biotec.com/biowc/techgram/list.html

They say that the British spelling uses "-ise" and the American uses "-ize".  Either those sites are wrong, or Kynes has an older dictonary.  I'm confused now... ???

Tsorovan

#21
The -ise suffix is a pretty late invention. Using -ize is still accepted in British English.

Philidor11

For me, British spellings are still unforgiven.
I've always been a good speller, and when I was in 6th grade, 11 years old, I knew that my school's spelling bee, part of the national contest, was the beginning of my way to acclaim.  I was already humbly accepting congratulations from myself.
The second round word was one I recognized from my leisure reading in the Faerie Queen, and I spelt it immediately and confidently.  Just as immediately I was out of the bee on my ass. >:(
Showing the director the book didn't help; my chance was gone.  My life was ruined by the provincialism of Edmund Spencer, who mistakenly used a 'c' in his own name.  That should have told me something, but I was young.

Pike84

QuoteThey say that the British spelling uses "-ise" and the American uses "-ize".  Either those sites are wrong, or Kynes has an older dictonary.  I'm confused now... ???
Must admit, that my dictionary is rather old..

QuoteThe -ise suffix is a pretty late invention. Using -ize is still accepted in British English.
That explains it, then :).

Olego

QuoteThe second round word was one I recognized from my leisure reading in the Faerie Queen, and I spelt it immediately and confidently.  Just as immediately I was out of the bee on my ass. >:(

Wow, that really sucks.  *boots the director out the bar doors*

~Olego~

Ralesk

QuoteWell, according to the Microsoft Encarta (which is American), "visulisation" is spelt "visualization" and "equaliser" is spelt "equalizer" but is also listed in the dictionary with the "s" version.

Oh, and the words "visulization" and "equalizer" are apparently:


You point being...?  It IS American, so it will of course use -ize and -ization, duh! :P

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Re: BASIC

http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/BASIC_programming_language

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Philidor:  I don't think I have understood what you were about, sorry. :-/

Zarggg

Ralesk, when was Thomas E. Kurtz's document written, and why would you trust him over Eric S. Raymond? ;)

Ralesk

I have heard about Kemény György from more than this one source.
And as you can see, Dijkstra did get involved in the whole thing a couple of years later than it was invented. :P

Anyway, Wikipedia is usually well "moderated", so bullshit doesn't appear ;D

Torkell

QuoteWe could have fun with backronyms for BASS :)
Basic All-purpose Sound System (to distort BASIC)
Balls-on Accurate Surround Sound (to copy Ian's description of modlue playback)

Hey - I've just realised BASIC is recursive:
  BASIC
  BASIC All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code
  BASIC All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code
  BASIC All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code
  BASIC All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code
... and so on ad infinitum

Tsorovan

Did I mention recursive (or I guess self-referential is the proper epithet) acronyms is the bane of human existence?

How about?
GRAANFSUT! - GRAANFSUT! Recursive Acronyms Are Not Fucking Funny! Stop Using Them.

Not dissing you, BoggyB, just the retards using that particular naming convention (unless you find them funny. Do you? Huh? HUH? :). Aaaaaaargh, I get so frustrated and wound up I need to punch my face with something. Or some other guy's face. Sorry for that violent rant. There's a lot I don't like.

Ian @ un4seen

QuoteI really have nothing against "color".  You can't really argue there's a universal correct spelling - it's just the side of the fence you come from.  I noticed it was spelled "colour" in the xmp-skin.txt, but "color" in the skinconfig.txt.
Pretty much all tag/config systems seem to use the "color" spelling, so I figured I'd use that in the skin config, while using the "colour" spelling in the docs.

QuoteWe could have fun with backronyms for BASS :)
http://un4seen.com/YaBB.cgi?board=bass&action=display&num=1036418832#12

;D

Olego

QuoteDid I mention recursive (or I guess self-referential is the proper epithet) acronyms is the bane of human existence?

So I take it you don't like GNU?  (GNU's Not Unix.  ;D)

~Olego~

Torkell

Or LAME? (LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder)

Hold on a minute... did I just say MP3?
*contemplates possible flame war over audio codecs*
*warms up the flamethrower* Might as well join in ;D

Zarggg

What flameware?  Ogg Vorbis is the best.  Everyone knows that. ::)

Pike84

#34
Everyone should know, Ogg is the best at from low to mid quality music, but actually mpc (MusePack) beats it at bitrates of around >160 :).

Tsorovan

Olego: I don't like the name no, but it was amongst the first ever so I can give it some leeway there. The followers are the worst, like LAME, yes. That won't stop me from using LAME though :)

Zarggg


QuoteEveryone should know, Ogg is the best at from low to mid quality music, but actually mpc (MusePack) beats it at bitrates of around >160 :).

When Ian has XMPlay support MusePack natively, I'll consider looking into it. ::)

Tsorovan

I'm all for improvement and progress, but I can't really see the point in switching formats myself, unless they prove to have significant benefits (say, 40-50% lower filesize than/identical quality to LAME 256kbps CBR). And OGG Vorbis and MusePack aren't really there. All in all, MPC is preferable to OGG though, IMO, but it's such a minor improvement over MP3 it doesn't matter much. OGG can do multichannel tracks but ah well, no use for that myself. Keep working though, I would like to see a worthy successor soon.

Pike84

#38
Just thought I'd go through your post here:
QuoteI'm all for improvement and progress, but I can't really see the point in switching formats myself, unless they prove to have significant benefits (say, 40-50% lower filesize than/identical quality to LAME 256kbps CBR)
Well, I can't really see the point in not switching the formats, if it's clear that one format (Ogg/mpc) beats another (mp3). There may not be point in changing all your music to the new format, but why not support it in future? I for one make sure that I'm ripping with the best quality-size -ratio (by the way, why are you using CBR and not VBR/ABR?).

QuoteAnd OGG Vorbis and MusePack aren't really there.
Hmm, I don't know if I see your point here.. Do you mean that they aren't popular or supported? For an individual using XMPlay with the plugin, it shouldn't be an issue.

QuoteAll in all, MPC is preferable to OGG though, IMO, but it's such a minor improvement over MP3 it doesn't matter much.
It's all relative - for me, it matters enough to support it :).

QuoteOGG can do multichannel tracks but ah well, no use for that myself.
Not using them myself..

QuoteKeep working though, I would like to see a worthy successor soon.
I don't think I need to look further ;).

[edit]Oh, and if you want some more info about the different (stream) music file formats, here's a good site: //www.modatic.net. For lazy people, here's a link to lossy audio formats page for comparison: http://www.modatic.net/audio/lossy_audio_formats.php.




Philidor11

MP3 is the standard.  You know that all software and devices are going to be able to work with it, and that any player is going to be able to handle it.
In principle, I like lossless compression best for the sound quality, but my .ape experiments are only for this pc.
For Ogg Vorbis, which is also lossy, the quality seems lower than MP3 at the high bitrates I prefer, though I'll admit I haven't tried that many samples.  If anybody has a Baroque or Bluegrass or Beethoven or Moody Blues or Broadway tune they really like, I'm willing to experiment further.
At any rate, realistically, most pc files should be in MP3 for now.  At least, I expect, we can agree to avoid wma.