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[Olego]

By the way...
Ten thousandth post on the Un4seen forums!!!

Yay!  *feels special*

~Olego~

[Torkell]

This topic probably doesn't need any more posts .

I know, but it's fun to have a flame war ocassionally, as long as it's all in good humor and no-one goes too far

[Brightguy]

Okay, here I go again.  Back on to the original topic...  I noticed that when you switch pattern display modes, the two options are "follow" and "center".

Of course, we all know it's correctly spelled centre.

It is also spelled 'center' in xmplay.txt.  This time I'm sure that 'centre' is the correct British spelling...

[Zarggg]

Well, you know what they say about the british: Give them 2.54 centimitres, and they'll take 1.609344 kilomitres.

*doesn't care if that joke is cheesy, he just had to work it in somehow :laugh: *

[Torkell]

Well, you know what they say about the british: Give them 2.54 centimitres, and they'll take 1.609344 kilomitres.

Or, if you still use imperial measurements, "Give them an inch and they'll take a mile"

In the UK we use metric for everything that's not car-related (miles, yards and miles per gallon)!

[Octie]

Of course, we all know it's correctly spelled colour.

Hehe. You know, Jasc's Paint Shop Pro has different language versions for UK and US. The only difference I've noticed is US-version has replaced "colour" with "color". (Now that I think it, US version must also have different lenght measurement magnitudes)

But yes, it is "colour", really. I friggin' hate the "color" form of "colour".

[Philidor11]

In the UK we use metric for everything that's not car-related (miles, yards and miles per gallon)!

You're among friends here; is this true?
I've already worked out that the French language is an elaborate hoax designed to aggravate and intimidate tourists.  French people go home, kick back, and speak English just like anyone else.  Some, who don't want to be bothered learning the elaborate rules, settle for incomprehensible.
Told my daughter, who's good in French here in the US, that she was among the few people in the world who actually spoke the language.  She reported our conversation at her school, and everyone whom she told found the concept intuitively obvious.  They passed along my insight so diligently that I think the game will soon be over.
Anyway, is there such a thing as the metric system nowadays?  And if there is, does anyone actually use it?
I mean, I know it came from the French (aha!) revolutionary legislature, which also wanted 10 month years and 100 minute hours.  Weren't the revolutionary measurements rejected as fast as the changes to the calendar?
Aren't most people in the world followers of the Babylonians, the people who devised measuring systems based on 6es.  I think we all know how good six is.

[Philidor11]

Oh yes, and I assume spellings like 'colour' and 'centre' are just badges of English identity.  
Could someone over there survive a round of a spelling bee using them?  Thought not.

[DanaPaul]

"I have nothing but contempt for anyone who can spell a word only one way."

The origin of this quotation has been credited to Thomas Jefferson, one of the founding fathers who participated in the drafting of the Declaration of Independence.  :evil:

[Pike84]

Philidor:
Whoa.. you're actually trying to start a flame war here? Tsk, tsk.. .

I know, but it's fun to have a flame war ocassionally, as long as it's all in good humor and no-one goes too far

Gotta say here, that I personally dislike any kind of flame war at any range .

[Brightguy]

In the UK we use metric for everything that's not car-related (miles, yards and miles per gallon)!

Miles?  Yards?  Gallons?  What do they mean?...

Are you saying you still drive in miles per hour?

[Philidor11]

Flame wars require opposition.  Now, Kynes, who could be angered by the ideas that the French language doesn't exist and that nobody uses the metric system when the accuracy of these observations is so self-evident.
And then notice Brightguy asking what miles, yards, and miles per gallon mean?  He knows them very well; they're part of the only system of measurement in actual use.  See, I'm not outraged; a bit condescending, yes, but as a form of humor it's certainly not worth getting angry about.

[Tsorovan]

Well, the "humour" part is debatable...

[Philidor11]

Well, the "humour" part is debatable...

I wanted his humor to be phlegm, not bile.

[Pike84]

Flame wars require opposition.  Now, Kynes, who could be angered by the ideas that the French language doesn't exist and that nobody uses the metric system when the accuracy of these observations is so self-evident.
And then notice Brightguy asking what miles, yards, and miles per gallon mean?  He knows them very well; they're part of the only system of measurement in actual use.  See, I'm not outraged; a bit condescending, yes, but as a form of humor it's certainly not worth getting angry about.

Ah, cut the crap already.. . Yes the humour part certainly is debatable. I, for example, somehow don't find myself very amused. I think this is actually getting pretty childish, not to mention old..

[kode54]

I don't know how you managed to hear mp3 better, but there's a considerable flaw in this test of yours: instead of comparing these formats to each other, you should have compared them to the original

That is correct, and the comparison should be performed using a blind testing tool. I believe one such tool is called WinABX, and the Foobar2000 player has an ABX component.

UMX is actually a form of Impulse Tracker, IIRC.

UMX is actually a generic Unreal archive containing one module file. Unreal and Unreal Tournament use a mix of .MOD, .S3M, .XM, and .IT. Deus Ex uses .IT exclusively.

[Torkell]

Yes, we still drive in miles per hour, and we drive on the left too! And the 3-2-1 signs at junctions are 300, 200 and 100 yards respectively from the junction.

About flame wars: the all-time funniest one I saw was on the GameFAQs message board, and had about 140 posts (3 pages at 50 posts per page). I should have saved it but didn't at the time, as GameFAQs don't keep topics for ever.
Anyway, this one is still good-natured. No-ones rested their elbow on the shift key yet.

[Philidor11]

That is correct, and the comparison should be performed using a blind testing tool. I believe one such tool is called WinABX, and the Foobar2000 player has an ABX component.

There's no such thing as a 'blind testing tool'.  The standard of measurement has been selected and built into the tool.  A blind test, or double blind test has to do with how the test is conducted.  In a drug test, for instance, a double blind test means that the people doing the testing do not know whether they're giving any given patient the drug being tested or a placebo.
The basis for comparison is also under the control of the tester.  For example, if I'm to compare the experience of listening to music compressed in the mp3 and mpc formats using a specific piece of equipment, then what is required is the equipment and the same piece of music in each format with similar bit rates.  If the admittedly subjective standard of my response to the music results in a finding that the two formats produce indistinguishable results or give the superiority to mp3, then that is a successful result.
Comparison to the original source, the music before compression, would use a different standard and constitute a different test.  If the standard were how the music sounds to me on a given piece of equipment, then a reasonable finding would be that the compressed version sounds better than the original because there is better software capability to play music on the hard drive than on the CD.
If the standard were some kind of technical measurement of the sound output regardless of the listening equipment used and the experience of the listener, then that would be a different test and could produce a different result.  A different result from this test would not invalidate the other.
If I had similar equipment to that used in the 'how the music sounds' test and just wanted to play music, I could very reasonably prefer the 'how the music sounds' test in choosing a compression format.

[Tsorovan]

Come again?

[Pike84]

Philidor11:

Regarding the choosing between different file formats, by considering which one sounds better, and not which one sounds closer to the original, I get your point. Yet, I don't see how software could affect how the music sounds, if you play them all through your computer anyway. If you think they play differently from hd versus CD, then you can always rip the CD to the unpacked wav format, and do the comparison then.

Anyway, I personally want my music to sound as close to the original as possible, because that's how it's meant to sound. Also I find that it sounds best for me that way .