Poll

Playlist System revised

1 - I want multiple playlists like in Winamp3
3 (50%)
2 - I want Windows Media Player/Musicmatch Jukebox style media library
1 (16.7%)
3 - I want some other playlist system
1 (16.7%)
4 - I'm happy with just this one playlist
1 (16.7%)

Total Members Voted: 14

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Zarggg

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Re: Playlist System revised
« Reply #25 on: 9 Jun '03 - 23:35 »
I've been mostly ignoring this thread, but I now think third-party moderation is necessary.

With all due respect, DanaPaul, the only person flaming here (what you call a 'hissy fit') is you. The membership of this forum are attempting to explain why they believe (which is their opinion; you are still entitled to yours) what you suggest is not needed.

They are not telling you 'no'. They are telling you what they think. You can either choose to use their input to make your idea better, or simply tune it out. In the end, it is neither you nor them who decides what goes into XMPlay; it is Ian.

That brings me to another point: Your tone. It seems to me that you are telling Ian that he must implement this. Forgive me and educate me if I am misreading this.

DanaPaul

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Re: Playlist System revised
« Reply #26 on: 9 Jun '03 - 23:55 »

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That brings me to another point: Your tone. It seems to me that you are telling Ian that he must implement this. Forgive me and educate me if I am misreading this.


Quite to the contrary.  Yes, I believe that a media library aware application is a useful tool.  In that vein, I would suggest that anything less than a full suite of media library options would/could dissapoint some folks if this were to become tomorrows direction.  XMPlay has a very useful purpose as it stands today because of its current capabilities.  It would be a shame to see that which it already posseses suffer in any way to become a one size fits all application.

On the other hand, I feel that multiple play lists are a no brainer. However, development may have their own reasons for this designed behaviour.  But I also feel that two or more playlist functionality is closer to a single playlist application than a media library aware application.

Thank you for asking :)




Zarggg

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Re: Playlist System revised
« Reply #27 on: 10 Jun '03 - 00:04 »
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Thank you for asking :)


Thank you for responding. :) I merely wanted to point out the dangerous direction this thread was taking. I wanted to (hopefully) calm it down a little before it got out of hand. We're all among friends of similar interest. Alienation is anathema here. ;)

DanaPaul

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Re: Playlist System revised
« Reply #28 on: 10 Jun '03 - 03:30 »

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I wanted to (hopefully) calm it down a little before it got out of hand. We're all among friends of similar interest. Alienation is anathema here. ;)


My behaviour has been deplorable in this thread.  My posts lack understanding, humlity, and compassion.  All of the same reasons why I chose to obstain from the last thread.  There is no excuse for my own behaviour.

My heart felt appologies go to Tsorovan for being unfairly singled out.  His/her loyalty and unwavering willingness to help is second to none.  A trust between members was violated and I am truly sorry for that. I wish to share that bloodied towel with you if will toss it this way.

Keltic Danor

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Re: Playlist System revised
« Reply #29 on: 12 Jun '03 - 17:30 »
Personally I was never fond of the multiple playlist idea (not in the style of winamp3 anyway) it just seems overly complicated that although might seem simple to the experience user, would confuse a beginner.

(ok ok so it confused me too :P)

I am however in favor of the MusicMatch style, think I remember suggesting that when the extended playlist was being put into the info panel. Even drew a piccy to show what I meant. :)

I'm not sure what musicmatch is like now (stopped even looking at it when it past 10 Mb, I don't care what it does, thats too big.) All I see that could come in handy is one playlist that contains the library, just a simple list, songs can be previewed from it etc. While there was the main playlist that songs could be added to by double clicking on them from the database and so on.

Thats the simplest way I think would work. Its not that a big pseudo explorer tree view layout of the music library would'nt work (ala WMP9) just that its overkill.

Maybe I'm being overly simplistic but I like apps that do few things, but do them *really* well. Thats what XMPlay does now, and I would'nt be too worried if it was left the same, or even a basic music library (MM) was implemented. I would however start to worry when it gets to the point that you need to think how to get your music playing instead of it just coming to you naturally how it all works.

:P (Here is where I say what all I said before does'nt matter)

However on more than a few occasion Ian has put in something that would of made any other player big slow and clunky, and did add them with no drawbacks whatsoever. Negligible size increase and no effect on speed.

So no matter what is finally decided, no matter what style of playlist is implemented, I know its going to be far more than any implementation before it ;)
« Last Edit: 12 Jun '03 - 17:37 by KelticDanor »