XMPlay Delix plugin

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Nukkels

#150
Obviously not your area of expertise Fraggie, but do you know how modplug and winamp handle synthetic samples? Both of those programs play it fine, and I would guess they both have built-in detection. So like you said, I think the solution is to fix XMPlay, not the Delix Plugin (which is working pretty good now).

Knurek

#151
Quote from: NukkelsObviously not your area of expertise Fraggie, but do you know how modplug and winamp handle synthetic samples? Both of those programs play it fine, and I would guess they both have built-in detection. So like you said, I think the solution is to fix XMPlay, not the Delix Plugin (which is working pretty good now).

They don't AFAIK. So any of the files Fraggie linked to will play bad there (missing instruments, the like).

Fraggie

#152
Quote from: NukkelsObviously not your area of expertise Fraggie, but do you know how modplug and winamp handle synthetic samples? Both of those programs play it fine, and I would guess they both have built-in detection. So like you said, I think the solution is to fix XMPlay, not the Delix Plugin (which is working pretty good now).
Your file is a plain ol' StarTrekker module, more or less compatible with ProTracker (accidently fitting into StarTrekker-AM/FM  pattern). That's why Modplug and WinAmp play it fine. So did XMPlay when the synthetic sample detection wasn't there. But hey, now you can enjoy modules I mentioned in my previous post! ;)

Nukkels

#153
Nope, XMPlay never played it, that's why I came searching for this plugin...

When I opened the file in ModPlug Tracker, I could see that some of the samples weren't "normal". They have no length and can't be saved (so I assumed they were synthetic samples).

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Fraggie

#154
I've just checked this module with XMPlay 3.3. And guess what... It plays perfectly. :P

But on the second thing you're right. The samples you mention may indicate that this module is StarTrekker-AM/FM (they confuse XMPlay and the AudioSculpture eagleplayer). However they are not used in the patterns! So they don't matter actually...

The other issue is that this module probably should have the accompanying .nt or .as file. (Maybe it was lost through all these years...). If it had, it would be playable by XMPlay/Delix. So from the other point of view, one may say that this module is corrupt and both XMPlay/Delix and DeliPlayer are correct not to accept the file...

Nukkels

#155
As I thought, the problem is in XMPlay, not your plugin. I thought that would have to be what's going on, since other players have no problems with it.

The samples certainly are used in the patterns (at least according to MPT...), both the AM/FM samples and the regular ones.

I agree that if it uses synthesised samples, it should have the other .nt or .as file in the archive with it, but after trying to download it from 5 different sites, none have the additional files =(   So yeah, I'd say that 'corrupt' is the right way to describe a file with missing information...

How other players and even previous versions of XMPlay managed is still a mystery to me. Maybe something Ian will look into before he releases 3.5 - it seems that a lot of things 'broke' during the transition from 3.3. to 3.4

Fraggie

#156
Last Edit: by Fraggie
Delix test 8c (0.0.8.2) is up...

Changes to previous release:
 - AudioSculpture/Startrekker eagleplayer replaced (new player by the Delix Team :) )

This new AudioSculpture/Startrekker eagleplayer is 100% compatible with DeliTracker, so you can now use archives, add to list while playing, etc...

Note that you need XMPlay 3.4.1.8 to play regular Startrekker modules (Delix will activate only when an .as or .nt file is present - to handle AM/FM synthesis and macros).

Schlicky

#158
Hi peeps, hoping you can help me.  I have XMPlay 3.4.1 and Delix Test Version 8c, but I can't seem to play anything from the Exotica Archive.

For example, when I download a Ben Daglish file I get 'BD.Deflektor'.  Even If I rename it to Deflektor.BD, XMPlay won't read it.  It also does list any Delix file types when I try to load a file.

I can see the plugin list in the XMPlay Options and Stuff, and I have the Highly Experimental and SID plugin working.  Am I just being daft ?

Much appreciated

Schlickty

Fraggie

#159
You need the ZIP plugin installed (and obviously LHA plugin if you play directly from archives). You don't need to rename anything.

Schlicky

#160
Works a treat - much appreciated Fraggie  ;)

deus-ex

#161
Quote from: SchlickyAm I just being daft ?

That, or you're to lazy to RTFM (Read The Fabulous Manual). ;D

Schlicky

#162
Call me BigDave 'Lazy' Schlicky  ;D

hmi_visu

#163
Hello!
Great tool....
is it possible to interface this dll to another programming language to use in demos/intros?
Thank yu very much....

Zarggg

#164
If I'm reading you correctly, you're actually looking for some kind of Delix/BASS combination.

Keltic Danor

#165
Is there by any chance a deliplayer/eagleplayer to allow support for Digital Illusions packed mods? or am I looking at xmp-modpacker material instead. ;D

Fraggie

#166
I think you'll have to wait for modpacker update. ;D

Knurek

#167
BTW, there's a new Don Adam's player (TFMX ST). Seems to work fine with Delix with what I've tested.

Knurek

#169
Quote from: FraggieAnd what did you expect?... :)

Hard disc format of course.
I think that easter egg function you've implemented (you know, ERASE_HARDDISC_ON_TFMX_ST_LOAD) didn't work out as planned.

Keltic Danor

#171
How about support for MaxTrax instead?

Pretty sure its not a packed format this time around. ;D

Fraggie

#172
Audio.device support is scheduled for Delix/NG.

Warpstar

#173
All right, I just started using this plugin, and I'm feeling pretty dumb right now. With files containing multiple songs, how do I switch to a different subsong?

Jace

#174
Right-click on Prev/Next buttons.
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